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York vs Goodman

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I am trying to decide between a York 16 seer hvac system vs a Goodman of the same seer level. Seems almost a toss up. Anybody have opinions?
 
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The names on the trucks are more important that the names on the box’s!
No doubt, the name on this truck is more important, than the name on the box. :grin2:

 
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Need to look deeper than just the brand name, what is the AHRI number if they are bidding matched systems. You don’t go by the outdoor unit ( in this case 16 SEER ) to get your efficiency ratings, it’s a combination of matching indoor to outdoor section that gives you your SEER2 and EER2 ( those are the new standards as of 1/23, certainly they still use SEER and EER and for Heat Pumps the HSPF ) hopefully the bidding Contractors did not let you believe the rating of the outdoor unit alone is what your going to get for efficiency ratings.

What type of outdoor coil does the York use on this model, the tried and true fin and tube or microchannel? Is either important to you? The Goodman uses fin and tube.

Is one Contractor offering a better labor warranty than the other, if so is that a plus in your decision making? If one manufacturer offers a better manufacturers warranty and puts in more standard features into the outdoor unit than the other, is that a plus in your decision making?

What does the bid consist of, is one more detail oriented and they are going to replace existing pieces or reuse them, as an example only, is one Contractor going to replace the outdoor disconnect switch and whip and condenser pad, and even the lineset, while the other are reusing existing pad, faded whip and ( possibly rusty rotting ) outdoor shut off switch.

Post the AHRI numbers if they gave you one, if not ask them for it and post it, or post model numbers of each section. Do you want AHRI ( Air Conditioning, Heating and Refrigeration Institute ) matched systems, is that a plus for you?

Are you interested in any money in your pocket rebates from your state? If so you need a AHRI matched system that says it meets your state’s minimum threshold.

Are you interested in the Federal Tax Credits? as you need to meet minimum threshold for those also.

Not all Contractors are created equal, as one may cut corners more so than another, and have an inferior install and setup, sizing of equipment than another, so choose your Installing Contractor wisely.
 
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#7 ·
That’s great then ask him for the AHRI number and post it for both systems, if your using a existing furnace and just installing a new outdoor unit and indoor coil, then chances ( if furnace is not more than a few short years old and needs to be the same brand as the other parts ) you will not get 16 SEER. If that’s the case, didn’t he tell you all this? Probably not as they want to make a sale? If you’re getting all new equipment, new furnace, new outdoor unit and new indoor coil, then it will be easy to match to AHRI standards and get you SEER/SEER2 and EER/EER2.

BTW, you need to register each section, including coil to get the manufacturer maximum warranty, if not typically it gets cut in half. Course if you reside in California or Quebec registration is not needed to get the manufacturer’s maximum warranty.
 
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Scroll been around a long time, chances it’s a Copeland brand compressor in the Goodman, what is the older style you reference ( Rotary ) on the York and what brand is it?

Those microchannel are not as forgiving when doing the final field refrigerant charge compared to the fin and tube, so they tell me..
 
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Thanks for the registration info...dealer said he will register to make sure it is done right.Dealer did point out AC unit had to be matched to right furnace to get certified 16 seer. I believe the dealer is very good, I have just been concerned with leaking coils with the York.
 
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I would not trust the Dealer 100% to register your equipment, as they do fall between the cracks. You certainly can check the brand you’re planning on getting and check the warranty lookup site, all you need is the serial number of each section, including the indoor coil.

“Dealer did point out AC unit had to be matched to right furnace to get certified 16 seer. I believe the dealer is very good, I have just been concerned with leaking coils with the York.”

Then chances your system should qualify at the very least for local $$ rebates from your state as chances if it’s proven your system is 16 SEER, that would be enough and for the Federal Tax Credits also. Did they mention that to you, are you interested in that?

Thinking leaking coils are not unique to just York. I’m old school I prefer fin and tube, but hey that’s me..
 
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