If you are dealing with companies with proven track records that are going to go the extra mile to back their reputation with outstanding installation and service after the install, then you are talking even money. Do your due diligence!!

 

Westinghouse is a Nordyne product and you can visit the website to get more info.

Go with whom you think will provide you with the best installation and support.

 

One of our distributors just took on a Nodyne brand, sister to Westinghouse. It ain't cheap stuff. Very nice looking, very quiet, great warranty, 5 year quality pledge if the compressor dies in 5 years they give you a new unit and pay the dealer to put it in. The top model has the same Copeland Ultra scroll all the high end units have. Seems funny it would be so much less than the standard Lennox though. Do some research on the dealer and if all checks out, go for it.

 

I guess I want to be sure that I'm not buying a piece of junk by getting a Westinghouse.

I've heard of Lennox, Trane, etc., but not Westinghouse in the residential arena. But I know from being a computer geek that IBM and Compaq were not necesserily the best either!! But to a lay person, they may not know any better and end up buying a piece of crap computer...

I digress.

Thanks,

David

 

Hi guys,

I am going to be purchasing a new system in about a month. I have had about 6 bids from 6 different vendors and have narrowed the choice to two installers.

The first installer seemed very interested on the installation of the system and spent at least an hour with me going over details of the system and what to expect. He was quoting a Westinghouse. A 16seer H/P and 92% furnace.

The other installer was selling a Lennox "signature" series 13 seer H/P and 92.5% furnace. However his was almost 2500 more.

Lennox has a 10 year warranty and the Westinghouse a 8. My question is, I've never seen or heard of a HVAC Westinghouse. I'd like to have some professional opionions either way before I make any decisions.

Thanks!

David

This is Turtle.

i would be hard pressed to choose between the 2 for i don't see any quality difference here.

TURTLE

 

So Turtle, are you saying that I'd be just as good (better cause I'm saving over 2000 bucks) to get the Westinghouse over the Lennox?

I'm just trying to clarify, cause I'm ignorant to these things.

Thanks!

 

So Turtle, are you saying that I'd be just as good (better cause I'm saving over 2000 bucks) to get the Westinghouse over the Lennox?

I'm just trying to clarify, cause I'm ignorant to these things.

Thanks!

This is Turtle.

What ever i say , money or cost has nothing to do with what I think about the equipment. You ask me about the Westinghouse or a Lennox and i give my answer of what i thought about the two of them and cost means nothing to me. You will have to worry about cost for I'm not buying it.

TURTLE

 

Well, I guess what I am looking for is the opinion of the quality. Turtle says that he sees no quality difference between a Lennox and a Westinghouse, but he doesnt elaborate on what HE means by quality.

Is he saying that Lennox is a high, medium or low quality?

Anyone? Buehler?

 

RE: Westinghouse vs Lennox

I work for a distributor of Frigidaire equipment, which is the EXACT same as Westinghouse. Nordyne makes the equipement and has the rights to market the units under the brand names, Frigidaire, Tappan, Westinghouse...all the same unit. The units are excellent quality and the warranty can't be beat. If the compressor fails on the Lennox unit in the first 5 years It is covered under warranty BUT you will have to pay labor for the contractor to tear the unit apart and replace it. With Westinghouse, if in the first 5 years the compressor fails, the ENTIRE unit is replaced and Nordyne pays the contractor to replace it...NO COST TO YOU THE HOMEOWNER. In addition, there is an 8 year parts warranty compared to 5 from Lennox (I believe). The Westinghouse units also run very quiet.

With service and installation being equal, I would definitely go with the Westinghouse over Lennox. Problem is, I don't know the contractors involved or what they included in their bids. $2500.00 seems like a big difference considering the Westinghouse is a 16 SEER vs a 13 SEER Lennox. Lennox is traditionally a little more expensive. I would have expected the 2 bids to be fairly close given the SEER rating difference.

I would put a 16 SEER Westinghouse unit in over a 13 SEER Lennox any day of the week, especially if I could save $2500 and get a quality installation.

My suggestion, examine the contractors in this one, not the units. If the Westinghouse contractor is reputable, go for it

 

Thank you Dog, that is the kind of reply I was looking for. Something that I could understand. I've asked the Westinghouse guy (whom by the way seemed to spend the most time explaining the details of what needed to be done) to confirm the quote.

Either way, I was looking for a quality reference.

Thanks for the feedback.

David

 

Ok, I was wrong on the price quote. The 16 SEER Westinghouse was about the same price as the 14 SEER Lennox.

The 2500 dollar difference was due to him giving me the wrong quote. Go figure.

Anyway, with the information I've received from this forum, its a wash between the two.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone and I will let you know how things go so others may be able to learn from what I experience.

 

i once sold some whirlpool equipment, same as armstrong, made by lennox. it was nothing but trouble. poor quality & the condensers look like crap after a few years in the sun. if the westinghouse contractor can do a good job. perhaps you should consider him. as others mentioned it has a very good compresser & warranty. i have never had a problem with a nordyne product.& the customers seem pleased. 90 % of what we sell is American Standard

 

Compare the warranties closely;labor included in either one??


Compare the furnaces,either one two stage,or variable speed fan motor?

If variable speed fan ,which has the better controls??For staging or dehumidifing,etc., ie your indoor comfort.

 

The 16 SEER heat pump is actually a 15 SEER 2 stage unit. You will be much more comfortable with a 2 stage unit over a single stage unit and will also save even more on utilities as the first stage will run most of the time. With a 2 stage heat pump you could very possibly have more capacity for heating because they only come in even sizes. Like if you need a 2.5 ton unit you would get a 3 ton with first stage being 2 ton. We have been a Nordyne dealer for a long time and have had great results with them. I would go for the 2 stage unit.

 

i once sold some whirlpool equipment, same as armstrong, made by lennox. it was nothing but trouble. poor quality & the condensers look like crap after a few years in the sun. if the westinghouse contractor can do a good job. perhaps you should consider him. as others mentioned it has a very good compresser & warranty. i have never had a problem with a nordyne product.& the customers seem pleased. 90 % of what we sell is American Standard

have NEVER heard of whirlpool being related to armstrong.

armstrong is owned by lennox parent company (lennox international). equipment not related to lennox industries.

 

Westinghouse made units way back when, in the early 70's if I can remember that far back. Lennox is good stuff , that being said, you'll be married to your Lennox dealer for a long time if you put Lennox in . They make their parts a little bit different than most. If you're not a Lennox dealer then they almost double the parts cost . I really haven't seen any of the new Westy equipment so I don't know what to think about them .

 

Between those two, assuming the dealers are of equal quality and the price is the same,,,I'd take the Westinghouse.

 

we sold westinghouse in the early 70s. westingouse now is just a name nordyne bought.

 

Here ya go

http://www.westinghousehvac.com/

 

That the Westy guy was willing to spend an hour to go over everything with you is key. That's the guy wanting to be sure you get a good system, that you understand it, and are happy with it.

That's the guy you want to be calling when it dies and its 100 degrees out.

Forget the brand, go with whoever makes you feel more comfortable with the choice. Once the system is installed, you are part way married to the installer for the life of the system. HVAC gear outlasts the typical American marriage, just a thought to keep in mind...

 

UPDATE:

As of this writing, I have a new HVAC installation. The installer is coming back tomorrow to finish the installation and do a walk thru / punch list. Other than a bad transformer, and a bad wire between my thermostat and where it connects to the circuit board, the installation looks good.

I cannot believe how quiet the thing is.... amazing. The outdoor unit is HUGE... but looks cool...

I'll post my results after ALL is done.

 

What brand/unit did you finally get??

.....I bought a Lennox 19 seer unit 3 months ago, and the thing is so huge it looks like it was built to cool a hotel. Guess that's how they get the efficiency out of these things. I would think new design and technology will one day make new AC units extremely SMALL, but that may be awhile. I think mine was oversized though, as they did not do a load calc....used sqft method. Not happy about that and am dealing with the dealer to find a resolution....

Ken

 

Westinghouse 15/16 seer 2-stage HP and 92.1% efficent gas furnace (backup heat) with variable speed blower.

I'm still waiting as of (Wed 10/4) for them to finish up. But I'm kind of jazzed about the system. I hope I chose the right brand and installer.

Once its complete and I've had a few weeks of use with both AC and heat, I'll post my feedback for anyone interested in the Westinghouse.

 

Hope they are using the Vision Pro IAQ as it will properly stage the backup! There is no timer in the Westy for staging. (that's ASS-U-MEing 2 stage gas).

Armstrong makes Whirlpool equipment.

 

BaldLoonie,

I'm not sure what you mean. They are installing a White Rodgers 90 series Thermostat..

I'm not in front of the unit at the moment but I believe it is this model

http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/common/ptech/thermo/thermo_05.htm

(Though its not the touch screen version)

Also,

I believe I do have 2 stage gas heat as well. I'll get all the specifics and post them this evening