Seriously, why isnt ABE LINCON ever mentioned as one of the people who freed the slaves. Isnt that what the emancipation proclamation was all about. Seems if it wasnt for him things would be horrible.
Seriously,,,,,,,,,what about ABE?????????
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And some fought for the north unwillingly. Not to mention many of the white soldiers where forced into fighting at threat of death.
On both sides. Not just the south.
True True. There will always be people that think they are to good to do menial labor. They have slaves today they are just called servants and they have to pay them. As little as possible.
The point is it was just a point. Why do so many southerners act like the war just ended?So instead of the south destroying the nation. The president seized power Unconstitutionally. Violated the constitution at several times.
Don't get me wrong. Slavery was and is wrong. My great great great great grandfather came from ireland as an indentured servant. Which was basically slavery until his debt was repaid plus interest. But he was able to be free eventually.
Slavery was on its way out with the invention of the cotton gin and other powered farm equipment. Because machines did not eat when there was no work, did not require housing or medical attention. Slaves where not without expenses. They where expensive to buy and own.
As for punishment the whole thing started over the right of the states to govern themselves guarnteed by the constitution. (STATES RIGHTS)
And the comment about blacks fighting on BOTH sides. Whats your point.
States rights or not it was unconstitutional period, i dont care either way since its over with.
As far as slavery today in the U.S. most people are industrial slaves anyway, but thats just my opinion. Something tells me no matter what i wrote you would disagree with it.
No! I do agree its over with. The point I was trying to make was what Lincoln did gave the US government the idea that they got away with it before. Just look at what is happening now. Government giving away money that they have no constitutional authority to do. Passing firearm bands. Most of what I have mentioned will not be found in school text books. Actually I had a nephew that did not know which war was started by Pearl Harbor. When I questioned him about it he said: Oh they don't teach us about those things in History Class. They are not important. Gives you an idea about what the teach in schools nowadays.
Man its a shame kids today cant tell the time without a digital watch.No! I do agree its over with. The point I was trying to make was what Lincoln did gave the US government the idea that they got away with it before. Just look at what is happening now. Government giving away money that they have no constitutional authority to do. Passing firearm bands. Most of what I have mentioned will not be found in school text books. Actually I had a nephew that did not know which war was started by Pearl Harbor. When I questioned him about it he said: Oh they don't teach us about those things in History Class. They are not important. Gives you an idea about what the teach in schools nowadays.
Im convinced we are getting dummer and dummer. Ive read well over 2000 books in my life , the hardest thing i do in the book store is find something i havent read,own or want to read.
T.v computer,vidoe games, if i want my daughter to go outside and get dirty i have to push her down.
Back when that happened. Its been a while back he was in tenth grade. How can the kids learn from mistakes in the past if they are not taught about the mistakes.
Do you really want to feel old???? Heard this on the radio a while back.Man its a shame kids today cant tell the time without a digital watch.
Im convinced we are getting dummer and dummer. Ive read well over 2000 books in my life , the hardest thing i do in the book store is find something i havent read,own or want to read.
T.v computer,vidoe games, if i want my daughter to go outside and get dirty i have to push her down.
Kids graduting today:
Have never known life without: A microwave Some type of video game
A computer
A TV without a remote
An air conditioner
A telephone
Most of them: have no idea what you are talking about when you tell them they sound like a broken record or dialing a telephone or have never seen an eight track player or a beta vcr.
There was more but this is making me feel old.
No. He decided to quit school shortly thereafter and sell drugs for a living. Until he got caught. Now he lays up on my mother and step dad. They continue to feel sorry for him.
Gee thanks, i already feel old tonight, 90 degree days are good for business but a butt kicker.
Try explaining a party line to one of them, they think your talking Politics,if their that smart.
My Dad was crazy , one day he came home and someone had their phone off the hook. He drove up and down the country road trying to find out who the sob was.
Funny it never happened again.
Try explaining a party line to one of them, they think your talking Politics,if their that smart.
My Dad was crazy , one day he came home and someone had their phone off the hook. He drove up and down the country road trying to find out who the sob was.
Funny it never happened again.
Here is a good one. My nephew, before he turned into a little jerk. Really ticked me off. For punishiment I took his remote for his TV for a week. He never told my mother to leave him alone again. He complained every day about having to get up and change channels.
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As long as we are discussing your nephew's poor education, here is an interesting timeline I received regarding how math was, and now is, taught:
Fifty Years of Math 1959 - 2009
Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give me two quarters, but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried.. Why do I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s:
1. Teaching Math In 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit ?
2. Teaching Math In 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Math In 1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make a profit?
4. Teaching Math In 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
5. Teaching Math In 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok. )
6. Teaching Math In 2009
Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de las producciones es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?
Fifty Years of Math 1959 - 2009
Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give me two quarters, but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried.. Why do I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s:
1. Teaching Math In 1950s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit ?
2. Teaching Math In 1960s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Math In 1970s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make a profit?
4. Teaching Math In 1980s
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
5. Teaching Math In 1990s
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok. )
6. Teaching Math In 2009
Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de las producciones es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?
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Which 13'th amendment?oK,, 13th amendment then
I enjoy history & especially books on American history. The War For Southern Independence is especially interesting.
The Un-Civil War by Mike Scruggs gives a very different perspective on Lincoln than what is taught in modern times. History is supposed to be factual, but is alway's whitewashed by the victor. This war was no different.
The first 13'th amendment which Lincoln supported passed the U.S. House of representatives on Feb 28, 1861. It passed the U.S. Senate Mar 2, 1861 and was sent to the States for ratification. Lincoln was unwilling to lose the huge tarrif's collected at southern ports and sent a fleet south and started the war the next month so it was never ratified. Here is the first 13'th amendment.
["No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of such State."]
Lincoln was a politician's politician & a scoundrel to boot. He is credited for ending slavery while he supported the first 13'th amendment which would have prevented it from ever being abolished. Go figure.
True very true. The kids nowadays rely to much on technology to the point they can't reason things out very well.
Here's a true story. It happened about one week after Opal came through Panama City, power was still out. We where in north part of county at the volunteer fire department. This young boy about 20 walked up (looked as if he hadn't had a bath in about a week) and asked if we had any water. I looked at the boy and asked him how long had he lived in the area. He said that he had been born there. I shook my head and said "Boy do you know where Pitt spring is" he said yes. Then go get you some water and a bath would not hurt you either while you are there. There are four springs within 5 miles of where we where all with better water than you can get out of bottle. Anyway the boy said that he had not thought about that.
The problem is the youth are not taught to problem solve in school anymore. They rely on technology to much. They don't know what to do when the lights go out. They just set back and wait for them to come back on. And if they don't most of them would not survive.
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