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#1 ·
Finally got time to take measurements of windows and look up floorplan and survey information to attempt a load calc. Decided to use coolcalc for the mapping tool although I had to tweak the adjustments to get it close to what my floorplan showed. I know it is far from perfect but it's a start. I didn't make many adjustments to their assumptions except for noting things like concrete slab, ductwork in attic and other things I could easily discern. I don't know my insulation values, but coolcalc supposedly makes intelligent assumptions based on property records and code. I did take measurements of windows and sliding glass doors since we have a lot of window surface area that is all single pane.

I setup two systems to reflect the space covered by my two existing systems, and the results are attached below. The 5 ton unit (covers system 1) is the one supposedly with a freon leak that I have been getting quotes to replace. Not sure if that was the right way to do it, but since there are two system already in place I thought that would be best to reflect how the two system split the area of my house.

If anyone has feedback on adjustments to the calculation so far, please let me know. Based on sensible cooling load divided by 12,000, it would appear I need a 4 ton unit (system 1) and a 2 ton unit (system 2). However, I am not sure how to factor in latent cooling load and heating loads. What are your thoughts pros?

System 1:


System 2:


Existing Systems:
Installed by builder in 2005

5 ton unit
serves about 2700 sqft
Coil unit – TXC065S3HPC0 manufactured 10/2004
Gas furnace – TUD120R9V5K
Condenser – 2TTR2060B1000AA manufactured (unreadable label)
Filter media BAYFTFR24M

2 ton unit
serves about 1000 sqft
Coil unit – TXC031S3HPC0 manufactured 3/2005
Gas furnace – TUD060R9V3K
Condenser – 2TTR2024A1000AA manufactured 4/2005
Filter media BAYFTFR17M
 
#4 ·
VERIFICATION is necessary



HEATING load estimate being larger than Colling LOAD is Obviously NOT Appropriate for Tampa FL.

Duct load is MUCH higher than I would anticipate.

4-ton A/C unit will not provide 46,000 BTU/HR Sensible Load.
Perhaps., ~ 38,000 BTU/HR with a presumed Sensible Heat Ratio [ S.H.R.] of 0.79, IF Actual Indoor Relative Humidity < 48%.


WINDOW TINTING needs to be determined and an appropriate SHGC value established/ estimated.
____. S.H.G.C.
CLEAR __ 0.8
MEDIUM _0.5
HEAVY __ 0.3

R-walls is presumed = 5 or 6 for the Concrete construction typical in FL.

COOLCALC makes many hidden assumptions so must be verified via ' alternate calc'.
...MORE LATER.
 
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#3 ·
Hard to evaluate your work or the program's work. Too much that we don't know.

I don't know my insulation values, but coolcalc supposedly makes intelligent assumptions based on property records and code.
So 2*4 walls? 2*6 walls? 2 pane glass? Window frames? Overhangs, shading and drapes figured in? The wall loads seem unlikely to be that high. (Compare to the ceiling loads.)

The heating load is considerably grater than the cooling load....Seems unlikely.

When you set out to buy, require a MANUAL J calculation and have each contractor explain it, comparing it to your calculations
The duct losses are considerable. What can be done about that? Discuss this with the cntractors.
Based on sensible cooling load divided by 12,000,
It is more complicated than that, That is what Manual S is about.
 
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#5 ·
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If WEST and SOUTH Facing Windows are not tinted, a film should be added
to significantly reduce Solar Heat Gain.
i.e. S.H.G.C. < 0.4

ATTACHMENT

_ _ LOAD CALC
... ... ... Sensible: ~ 41,000 BRU/HR - FIRST FLOOR
 

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#6 ·
Thanks everyone for the feedback and Dan for the calculation. I will input the variables, measurements, directionals, etc. I used into loadcalc.net and share the results so you all can see the assumptions. It make take me some time...
 
#7 ·
I think I screwed up by treating the existing zones/systems in my house as separate plots rather than doing a whole house load calc. My mistake. I will post a new calculation for the whole house to see how I messed that one up ;)
 
#8 ·
You can do the zones separately if you assume the dividing "wall" between the zones has no heat transfer. (which would be the case if they were maintained at the same temperature.)
 
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#9 ·
That would be the case. Would I just exclude the dividing wall from the calculation then? When I went to loadcalc.net it said whole house so I thought I better just do that. And when I reviewed Dan's calculations I saw that he factored my second zone as a second floor, when it is part of the first floor. That made me think I was looking at this all wrong.

I posted the result in a new thread here to avoid any confusion with this initial calculation I did here. http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?2169361-revised-load-calc-for-whole-house If I should post it here instead, just let me know.
 
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