I am proposing a maintenance on a 425 ton trane CVHF049 I need to know how many tubes so I can include Edy Current every other year. Does anyone know a trane site that has this information.
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We have the perfect opportunity for a "teaching moment" at this time.
To show you in graphic manner how self-righteous you are, exactly what is it or how much is it that you want to bet that my vendor doesn't hold a national Level III certification? (Don't bet something that you can't afford to lose.) Since you have no earthly idea who you're talking to, how do you know that I don't hold one? Only two things could even possibly come into play to make you say this - either you're the only person in the whole world who has one, or you are the most arrogant ECT technician that has ever graced this site with his/her presence. So which is it?
The several eddy current companys I've delt with in my state, are all LEVEL III analysts. The thought to look up their certs never crossed my mind. The companys : reputation, customer service, quality of work, & longevity speak for them... not just being a level III analyst.
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I wish I could say that this is the first mention I have heard of a manufacturer store going after a deal after a contractor informed them of the need so he could receive a quote.
Naw, no reason to question the ethics of that......
Looks like you already lost that bet, even with the information on front of your face. yorktek37 recommended K&L out of San Antonio Texas. It appears that Mr. Hendricks does have a Level III
http://asnt.org/certification/cert/certdetail.cfm?id=5538
What do we win?
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My response would be the same to you as it was to "oldhatsales".
I assume that you read it, I will reiterate... if you have this problem you should start with the NSS and work your way up.
We (the factory offices) are reminded and cautioned regularly on anti trust laws.
I still beleive that what you are alleging for the most part falls under the catagory of old wives tales.
I could be wrong but I would need to see proof to be convinced.
You're not bashing anyone, yet you say that 90% of what you read here concerning ECT is wrong, as if you're the only one around who knows their butt from third base about the subject............
No one said you were self-promoting, I said that you are self-righteous. Stop telling folks how much you know, and post some worthwhile info. It doesn't take a week to formulate a thought for someone that knows what they're talking about. Spit it out!!!
I don't need to hear myself explain that which I know already, either. But I've learned an immense amount since becoming a member of this site, simply because I do what most everyone else here does - I try to learn from the conversations, and offer what I can when what I have is worth offering. Most folks don't start by telling everyone that they're going to enlighten us with their vast expertise of a subject - they just offer what they can and let everyone else decide whether or not they know what they're talking about. Starting the way you did doesn't work with a first year apprentice, much less the 30 to 50 year crowd.
There was another guy from the sunshine state that hung around here when I first joined, and he had much the same attitude as you portray. Got hammered pretty hard and hasn't been heard from in a year or so. Go back and read your posts from our viewpoint and see what you think it sounds like. Then, if you'd like to start over, WELCOME!! But if you truly can't see why folks reacted to what you said in the manner they reacted, then you need to brace yourself for a lot of this. JMHO
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Your post are the biggest bunch of double talk that I have read in quite a while.First, here is my first post on the subject. After reading it I am sure you will at least agree that the information I am willing to offer does require more than a quick post that everyone was waiting for? http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=5594032#post5594032
The next post will about the technical capabilities or eddy current theory. Depends on my mood when I get the chance to sit down and write it up.
The wrong information is clearly just guys not being correctly informed. I am not trying to find fault with anyone on here. I do however find fault with the handful of companies out there that mis-educate or misguide their clients. I want you guys to know everything about our industry. That benefits me because it will weed out the knuckleheads that don't know what they are doing and ultimately costs everyone a lot of money (ironically, they are the ones that offer the crazy low rates to do the inspections.)
Again, I apologize for the attitude. If there really was any there it was certainly not to be directed to you guys. I take a lot of pride in my work as I am sure most everyone else on this site does. If you found some forum where a tech was sharing wrong information to the world about how to service a CVHE chiller would you not jump in? Wouldn't you jump in quicker if you found that the tech got all his info from an unlicensed, untrained, "tech" from somewhere else? I'm sure most all of you guys would since it's your livelihood to do a good job and be the best at what you do...
Now, klove I'm Chris...it's good to meet you.
Is your company aware that you are soiling their reputation on a national level(that is if they had one to start with)? A few days ago I had never heard of Tricen, but I sure will remember the name now, and who uses their company name as thier screen name...unless you own the company I guess?
I also assume that you realize that half of the guys in the chiller group here either work or have worked for one of the big three chiller Manufacturers. Hence I beleive that is safe to say we know a little about a peice of copper tubing that is inserted into our machines.
The only part of your post that I would be interested in is to see if your co-workers have the same attitude that you do.
After repeated replies on your part. IMHO... "I don't beleive you can help yourself " (hope that you are familiar with that concept).
It's very clear that no matter what I say you are going to have some negative comment for it. If all you have left is to now degrade my choice of screen name then it looks like you don't have much left to go on. Perhaps it is time for you to go badger another new user. I'm sure he would appreciate the holier than thou attitude.
BTW, I just re-read my previous posts and I still can't find where I insulted, or attacked you or anyone else...
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Obviously you still don't get it.
I would still like to hear from one of your co-workers.
How hard can it be to reference some material on Eddy Current, put up a PDF or something?
Would you like me to do it for you?
I do agree that you have dug yourself in so deep that I am not interested in anything that you may know or have to say at this point. But by all means continue it is very entertaining.
Did you not click on the link from the other thread I started? I already posted information: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread....32#post5594032
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Why yes I did.... That is the post that I was reffering to as usless double talk.
We have already established that our people also have certification.
Matter of fact we have three techs. in our office with that certification, not to mention two in the vibration dept. with level 3 for vibration analysis.
I ask again how hard is it to link to, reference, or post a PDF on the technical aspects of Eddy Current, which is what you promised to shed some light on in your initial post.
Like you I guess that I am not quite in the "mood" yet to go back and pull out all of your quotes.
Please let us hear from your co-workers as you eluded. ( Personally I really beleive that it will be a miracle if you could "suck" them into this although)
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I agree I couldn't find one that expressed my feeling on this post.
I have a few ideas, but I feel sure that the moderators would not be on board with them.
I have a few ideas, but I feel sure that the moderators would not be on board with them.
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