[rock lobster]

These are 4 of the 18 boxes he can get to without crawling on his belly through fiberglass.
Nope, no catwalks anywhere.
A deathtrap, it is.
Apologies for these not being directly related to HVAC... just thought you would appreciate such craftsmanship.

 

[trey r]

Turn and run !!!!!!!!

 

[square&level]

The craftsman was just trying to speed up the next guys troubleshooting....

 

[mrfixit-ms]

Hope they have a good fire dept.

 

[Phaze5]

makes it easier to find the breaker :shrug: with your skin

 

[mrfixit-ms]

If you noticed my location, I see this so often that I began to believe this was code for this area. My biggest shock was finding out the hard way that it was accepted practice to wire a light switch breaking the neutral vs the hot wire. different subj. but over here it is custom? to put gas shut-off valves UNDER the house. None of the old timers can explain. Code I guess

 

[rickwm228]

Thats really dangerous! Was running some flex in an attic one day for a hard to reach return location on my belly and crawled over a hot pole under insulation and looked just like that, lit me up. Very bad! Almost fell through sheetrock. I was lucky. I was extremely PISSED! Turned out to be the old man HO that rigged it up for a spare light in hallway. I sure had a thing or two that i told him.... Ignored him for the rest of the install.....

 

[alpha480v]

They can't afford wirenuts?

 

[BobbyBJr]

They can't afford wirenuts?

Or romex connectors it seems....

 

[Shophound]

Makes you wonder why they even bothered with the j-boxes. Just splice the stuff and throw it down. Ain't much worse that what's there.

Yeah...911 on speed dial. They're gonna need it.

 

[300 Win Mag]

Now that I have not seen before. I have seen tape on wires, but to leave them bare?

 

[nineball]

Gosh thats terrifying.. How could you live with that? I would call the fire department and tell them to bring some dogs and beer

 

[inturmoil]

I had 277 hit me because of crap like this. Stuff like this in a t-bar ceiling and me, being an apprentice, not looking around.
It hit like a hammer in my back, threw me to the floor through the T-bar and made my heart hurt. The fall hurt, too.
A decade and a half later, I'm much more careful.
I would have run from that jobsite today.

 

[nineball]

277 wiggles thru your soul

 

[lots-of-junk]

Yep, we see similar (perhaps not as bad) stuff too.

Let's see:

two 120 volt Branch circuits tied together.

Ground wires in j boxes cut so short you cannot get to them without having to do some sheetrock damage.

No ground wires pushed through whips at condensing units.

No wire nuts at electric furnace connections, just tape, and no disconnect either. Connections sitting in emergency drain pan. Nice.

No j boxes for outdoor light fixtures, but wire nuts were used. Connections stuffed into wall insulation.

Romex ground wire being used as neutral. That's not so bad, I have seen ground wire being used as HOT! .....OUCH!

Improper use of wire strippers. Wire cut nearly all the way through. Wire breaks at some other time.

Lamp cord (instead of romex) running through attic.

 

[selfemployed]

OH yea

Got 115v. in the cheek while holding the copper gas line I was installing in a crawl space. They had just cut the romex off and left it hanging there.

 

[orlandotech]

I've been bit by 277 3 times that I can remember.

1: A coil of MC cable that was for a service light in a mech. closet sitting on top of the wall. I put my ladder up against the wall and climbed up to goop some duct. when I reached the top of the wall I happened to put my hand on the cut end of the MC. the sparkys were hot checking lights as they were hooking them up and forgot to wirenut off the cable. It left three burn spots on the palm of my hand the size of #12 wire.

2: I was working off of the top of a 6 foot ladder measuring up for some duct for a VAV box. the box happened to have 480v 3ph elec. heaters in it. I momentarily lost my balance. one hand on the fire sprinkler pipe and one hand in the heat strips. That one was a good bite.

3: I was cutting down some sheetmetal duct one time. I was standing on top of a wall to get a better reach. there was a J-box nearby that some 277 light fixtures were tied to. someone took them at some point and instead of removing the wirenut to seperate the wires they just cut underneath the wirenuts, leaving a little tail sticking out. I saw the wires sticking out of the box but didn't see the tails so I go about my business. all of the sudden i'm getting bit and I can't move. all I could think to do is get rid of the sawzall but I couldn't move. suddenly the zap went away and I tossed the saw down. I first thought that the saw internally shorted since it was an older one that had bare metal exposed. I felt something on the side of my arm. I looked at my arm and I had a cut-like scratchmark on it where the wiretail got under my shirt sleeve. It was a burnmark where the wire was cooking a little. That was the best one yet. I had conscious thoughts of what I wanted to do but couldn't act on them.