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Humidity removal (R22 vs R410a)

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#1 ·
On another HVAC related form, somebody made the claim that R410a units do not remove humidity as well as a R22 unit of the same size. I'm not sure if I understood him correctly but I think he attributed this difference to the fact that
"R410 units have a significantly lower ratio of sensible to latent capacity than R22". Is there a general consensus that, all other things being equal, R22 systems to a better job of removing humidity than R410a systems?
 
#8 ·
My 2 cents worth about R22 versus R410a

I am not an expert -- so perhaps my comments make no sense at all; however, I hear many HVAC people talk about they do not mess with 410a yet -- keep R22. Well, I think I understand that R22 will be around for a long time (no problem with that).

On the other side. It is almost 2006. Beginning in just 4 years, HVAC dealers that want to put in any new units better get comfortable with R410a. Perhaps R410a is not as good as R22 that can be debated but there are going to be many, many units using R410 in the year 2010 and beyond. Heck, there are many units now using R410a. I teach computer courses at a small university -- things change all the time in my world. Many times I am not in favor of the change but you have to get up to speed with new technology or the times pass you by.

Not to flame anybody, but the future of Heat Pumps from my view (good or bad) is R410a. If a HVAC installer does not feel comfortable with it or trained or have the equipment then it seems like they better get comfortable with it in the next couple of years or they will only be able to service old equipment not install any new ones.

J. D.
 
#6 ·
humidity removal? Never had or heard of that before. I kind of look at it like this. some guys don't like putting in R410 yet. A lot of differences in it.
R 410 cannot be evacuated to remove water it has to be filtered out.
410 is a LOT higher pressure.
R410 is same cost to put in, if it leaks though its higher priced by WOW ITS HIGHER PRICED!!!
takes different equipment and some guys don't wanna put out the expense to change over yet.
Champaine leaks in coils in southern climates with R410
etc etc. Its your choice. as far as humidity removal? I wouldn't give that a second thought.
 
#5 ·
OK, I looked...

Rheem RAMC36 R22 with matching TXV coil .72
Rheem RAMM36 R410a with matching TXV coil .72

A-S 2A7A4036 R22 with matching VS TXV air handler .74
A-S 4A7A4036 R410a with matching VS TXV air handler .76
oops, R410a isn't doing too well here

York H1RD036 R22 with matching TXV coil .72
York CZB036 R410a with matching TXV coil .74
OK, so the R410a falls a little behind at York

Amana RCC036 R22 with matching TXV coil .78
don't use that in a humid climate :(
Amana RSC036 R410a with matching piston coil .72
gee, piston does better!

Bottom line, as I said before, check the units you desire regardless of refrigerant
 
#3 ·
There's no consensus,that R22 dehmidifies better.
 
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