Also it seems as if Goodman has a better warranty than York but I am flexible with that. I do plan to live here for a long time. (In case this helps)

I think you have your answer right here.

 

Do More Research On Your Contractors
I Am Partial To Goodman,but Others Will Disagree[back Me Up Roboteq]
Excellent Warranty On Gmfg Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!



P.s. This Will Be Another Long Thread Full Of Ranting Lol

 

Do More Research On Your Contractors
I Am Partial To Goodman,but Others Will Disagree[back Me Up Roboteq]
Excellent Warranty On Gmfg Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!



P.s. This Will Be Another Long Thread Full Of Ranting

I stand by what I say !!!!!!!!!

Don't we already a thread on this ?

 

I will say it too, Goodman is a great product. HVAC2B is correct, someone ignorant will come along and make a mess of this, but please disregard there comments and go with the brand and contractor you feel comfortable with.

 

trane is great, but i would go with the goodman, they are slightly louder on the condencer side, but the warranty more than makes up for that, also get the 99 year compressor warranty. it's very affordable. i won't tell ya how much. (i don't want to throw anyone under the bus there)

 

That is a R410a system with a very quiet Copeland scroll compressor in the Goodman 16 SEER unit, so sound is not an issue with this particular unit.

There is a lifetime compressor warranty already on that unit with a limited unit replacement warranty as well. Remember, the only HVAC persons who sell equipment who are going to claim that warranty does not prove a better product are those selling equipment that the manufactures don't feel good enough about their product to put a better warranty on it.

This of course applies only to standard factory warranties. Throwing in the "extended" warranty red herring is just to through consumers seeking value oriented products off the path.

In this case the Goodman is the better deal; 16 SEER (is a good number) vs a possible 14 SEER on the cooling side and 95% vs 92% on the heating side makes this choice a no brainer.

This is not an apples to apples comparrison. York does make higher efficiency equipment that would be more comparible to the Goodman system quoted.

 

Longer warranties do not make the product better,just look at various car brands.Extended warraties are available for any brand.

I would favor the VS fan,regardless of brand.

If price is the most important to you,then maybe go Goodman.

 

Longer warranties do not make the product better,just look at various car brands.Extended warraties are available for any brand.

I would favor the VS fan,regardless of brand.

If price is the most important to you,then maybe go Goodman.

Extended warraty is not mentioned.

The Goodman system is already rated with a VS blower, and I agree that one should be part of every new install.

Price is not the only issue for this poster. The poster has already stated that the prices are nearly the same. The Goodman system in this comparison is simply a much more efficient system for relatively the same amount of money. Those outside of the blue oval club refer to this as "added value".

 

None of the York 3S get 14 SEER without a VS blower. The GY9 is a PSC blower, so you not going to get 14 SEER.

The GY9 is a builder grade furnace(Latitude), you can get a 14 SEER Latitude condenser.(it is not a 3S) Same warranty as the 3S line though.

Personally I would want a VS blower no matter which brand you choose.

 

It`s like do I pick a Yugo or Hundai sure Hundai has a great warranty but taking it in the shop every day gets old

 

So does reading ridiculous comparisons to cars from people with no real input get old.

 

In regards to the VS blower, I am unfamiliar with that. Does York make that? How much on average does it cost more? Since it seems if the system does not have the VS blower what SEER rating will it get instead?

Also looking at prior posts it seems as if people aren't big fans of Goodman? Why??? Would you rate the York system better than Goodman or are they about the same. It did seem that they did not have the best product at first but they have shown improvements.

When I was quoted the Goodman system was 300.00 more that the York but it seemed to be a better system (Seer rating/Furnace). Why would it be still reasonably priced with a better system?

Also I was quoted with the Trane XL15i for about $1500.00 more but as a heat pump. Is a heat pump better than a gas furnace? I currently have the Trane XE1000 as a heat pump. Your advice is appreciated.

 

In regards to the VS blower, I am unfamiliar with that. Does York make that? How much on average does it cost more? Since it seems if the system does not have the VS blower what SEER rating will it get instead?

Also looking at prior posts it seems as if people aren't big fans of Goodman? Why??? Would you rate the York system better than Goodman or are they about the same. It did seem that they did not have the best product at first but they have shown improvements.

When I was quoted the Goodman system was 300.00 more that the York but it seemed to be a better system (Seer rating/Furnace). Why would it be still reasonably priced with a better system?

Also I was quoted with the Trane XL15i for about $1500.00 more but as a heat pump. Is a heat pump better than a gas furnace? I currently have the Trane XE1000 as a heat pump. Your advice is appreciated.

Professional HVAC people who do not sell and install Goodman producst don't like Goodman producst because those professionals who do sell and install Goodman products along with other brands are making a lot more sales with the Goodman; more bang for the buck for the consumer and the contractor.

That is why there is more Goodman branded HVAC equipment heating and cooling more homes in the United States then any other singular branded equipment.

 

gas line capacity

Is a 2" gas line (2psi) adequate to supply a gas clothes dryer and gas water heater on top of an existing gas stove and dual fuel heat pump / furnace? Two person family, 2000 sq' home. Gas meter is 40' from furnace, 80" from stove. Dryer and water heater will be 90' from meter.
Thanks.
J.

 

You have a 2 lb service?

Unusual for resi around here.

But yes, a 2" pipe at 2 PSI will carry a standard resi gas furnace, WH, range and drier, for the distances you listed.
And then some.


Are you sure you have a 2lb service.

 

I agree with snck, we have been installing goodman for over 2 years, we started with Lennox, then with Trane and Carrier, also with York, and now with Goodman. They do offer the best warranty in the market and you can also get the 99 year warranty on the compressor.

 

Warranty on Goodman is great. If you buy a Goodman make sure you go on line and registar for the extra 5 years on the parts side... I know they say 10 years parts but you must registar for the last five years...Also ask you HVAC contractor for a 10 year goodcare warranty on the labor....VARIABLE SPEED NO MATTER WHAT FURNACE YOU BUY.

 

Question to you Energywise and others as well. I spoke with the company who provided me the quote and they told me that the quote he provided me included the 10 year Goodcare warranty. I asked a couple of times because I did not want to get confused with the normal warranty compared to the Goodcare warranty and he told me that it was included. Does this sound right???

Plus they explained to me that the agreed upon price that they give me would be all that they would be asking for. If they had to add any additional costs they would not charge me. They also provided me with a complete inspection list of what they do with their work which seems very extensive. What other things should I be asking the contractor. Since this is my first time doing this I don't know what else I should be looking for other then the BBB which I did already.

Thanks for the help

 

Garc33

If a goodcare 10 year parts and labor warranty was included in the quote. Ask for the GOODCARE extended warranty form copy. The form requires your signiture for the 10 years... Any goodman contractor will honor this warranty if your contractor happens to disappear. Also dealer is paying the cost to buy this warranty from Goodman.

Mark

 

Comparasion Was Made To A Car Warranty. The Only Thing I Can Say About The Goodman, If It Was A Car, I Wouldnt Kick The Tires (they May Fall Off). Although There Are Some Good Tapes On The Market That May Seal The Panels And Hold The Unit Together Till The Tail Lights Of The Installers Truck Disappear. Id Rather Drive In A Car With Less Of A Warrnty Than One With A Lifetime Warranty That The Bumpers Fall Off, The Fenders Rot Away And Will End Up Critically Injured (or Dead) If I Have An Accident. You Get What You Pay For. That Is Something Weve All Learned The Hard Way. Goodman Has Its Place....just Not In My House. If You Want My Opinion. You Need A Variable Speed Air Handler With A 2 Stage Condensing Unit. As For The Brand, I Would Go With Most Major Brands Except Goodman. The Most Important Thing As Most Installers/service Guys Would Agree Is The Installation. Ask If You Can Visit A Current Job. If It Looks Messy On The Surface...its Probably Messy On The Inside. The Question Is .....do You Buy Your Tools At Wallmart, On The Snap On Truck Or Somewhere In The Middle. They All Give You A Lifetime Warranty. Good Luck And Sorry If I Offended Anybody.

 

Well, here is some more useless info for a homeowner that is still hopefully interested in a Goodman product. Do you think it was necessary to come in here and say that? Are you the type of goober that would tape panels onto a unit, or would you find a solution to fix it properly?

 

The value you receive from goodman amana is far superior the additional benefits of efficiency and 2 stage cooling on some sizes is beneficial also The contractor is the most important thing check refs bbb natex.org lic board.
look at some of the pics on wall of shame that makes the point in vivid Technicolor Good Luck you may need it.

 

I just hope none of the real pros here are letting the brand bashers actually upset them. There is nothing I like better then to follow behind a brand bashing tech and show the HO why they are so wrong.

Having such a preconceived notion about a brand just gets in the way of doing your job professionally. After all; why bother fixing a POS?

 

"Those outside of the blue oval club refer to this as "added value"."

For those in the G club,that's we can build it cheaper than you can.

 

"Those outside of the blue oval club refer to this as "added value"."

For those in the G club,that's we can build it cheaper than you can.

Interesting sig line dash;

If you don't feel welcome at first ,check back for more serious replies from Pro's that are more interested in assisting ,than attempting to be a comedian.

I suppose you feel that useless posts that are humorous are more distracting then useless posts that brand bash and are degrading to our industry....such as the one you posted above.

Oh well dash, to each his own.

 

I've only jokingly knocked Goodman. The only experience I have with them is dealing with some units that were installed in every house in a sub-division here a few years ago. The builder hired a propane-oil co-op to do the installs, and I think they had a guy who was blind in one eye and half blind in the other (seriously) do the work. Other than that Goodmans aren't real popular around here, most builders use Comfortmaker or Tempstar, and lately i've been seeing some Weatherkings, which I didn't know they still made.

 

the quality of the unit is determined by the quality of the install. I would rather have a more inexpensive system installed properly than the most expensive system hacked in....

 

 

Twilli has fans....Twilli loves his fans and without his fans Twilli would be nothing.

Twilli gives a shout out to all his peeps in all the sections....

 

Mr. Bill has fans too.....these are my special two zoned fans.

 

both a very easy to work on doesn't matter to me as long as it is servicable... is that a word?

 

Now that's the best attitude a good tech can have, and yes that is a word. A very good word indeed.

 

Twilli give a second look


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpER--qDgMY&feature=related

 

Dr. Air and Professor Heat can heap ya!

 

Well, aside from the few brand bashers, and I am surprised that dash decided to so blatantly join them, we need to keep the facts in order here.

The OP stated two systems that are not truly comparable. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the York Affinity series (I was selling this line just a few years ago) but the Affinity is not on the table here.

Between the two compared systems the Goodman has an efficiency, warranty and feature advantage over the York. If the comparison were a York Affinity vs an entry level Goodman, I would be suggesting the York. I certainly don't benefit one ioda from who on this forum buys from. My contractor customers buy from me mostly because of me and most would switch brands if I were to switch companies I work for. I have no need to promote any particular brand but I am not going to cower from so much untruth from brand bashers just because I happen to sell a particular brand. If I did not also promote other brands when they are the best for the application, then I could be suspect of being a brand promoter. I do not do that, members such as dash do that trash, not me.

As for Goodman not being used in expensive homes, that is just another stupid comment. My contractors sell Goodman products to home owners from every walk of life. There are Goodman systems in the most expensive homes in my region (as well as other brands). I sure wouldn't be as surprised to see a 13 SEER Goodman system in a multi-million dollar home as I would to see a 16 SEER Goodman with a variable speed indoor air handler with enhanced humidity controls in bungalow in New Jersey.

As usual, the brand bashers that stalk this site have posted nothing that is true and continue to personally bash me while all I do is post factual data.

When will you people learn? I don't really care what you buy or install. I just provide the information as I know it.