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40VA is the same as 75VA ????????????

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I check the work orders for a our service department, I notice that a call which needed a special order TRANE 75va transformer had been completed. However the part had not arrived:confused:. So I go speak to the tech that completed the call. He first tells me that a Trane 5 ton residential AHU does not come with 75va transformer. Then he tells me that a 40va fits in that control box just fine, & there is no need to order the small Trane 75va transformer :eek: . First, i have personaly seen this done before & it ends up being a call back.
I have had those Trane heat pump units chatter contactors/controls because of this in the past. Anyway guys Iam want to know what you think, he is a very respected tech but I don't know about this one!:rolleyes:
 
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#4 ·
Ditto. If Trane could get away with a 40VA, don't you think they'd do it? It's cheaper. His reasoning doesn't pass the sniff test. Glad you're smarter than he! :D
 
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#7 ·
You should send him back immediately as the 40 VA usually will not fail quickly and as it gets overloaded the output drops where the circuit board could be damaged. Then you have two replacements in place of one.

Solid state stuff does not like to work on less or more than factory specs when it comes to voltage.
 
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#10 ·
Yep,yep,yep!



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Yes Sir, seen that happen in the winter too. Unit called for defrost contactor at the heat strips were badly burned and the defrost board was baked. Its to bad I did not know about this site them would of made a nice pic in the wall of shame!:D

p.s its on the schedule first thing 2morrow!:cool:
 
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#11 ·
Go twilli


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with or without the reset breaker????:p
 
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#12 ·
A 40va transformer can only safely deliver 40va that is only about 1/2 the wattage (power) that the 75va can deliver. That should be changed to the correct size transformer before secondary damage occurs. Circuit boards, contactors, etc... Those devices all require a specified amount of current and that 75va transformer was OEM because it could deliver the required power. The smaller transformer will undoughtedly be supplying low voltage conditions since it is being overloaded, well until it lets the smoke out anyways.
 
#15 ·
On this Trane unit a m/n# TWE there was no fuse I don't know if it was cut out by some other tech? There was a short at the condenser insulation broke of the wiring! Oh and the 75va for that Trane unit is about half the size of our after market part 75va.:D
 
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#17 ·
A purist would say yes, I do believe.

However, Aaon uses 2 75 VA Tx's instead of using 1 150 VA Tx. The 1st thing that comes to my mind is how much available space is there? 2nd thing is why not just use the right stuff the 1st time and not worry about getting creative?


Aaon...:eek:*shudder*:eek:
 
#19 ·
V A stands for Volt Amps. So to make this simple lets say the transformer is 25 volts. So 40va divided by the 25 volts = 1.6 amps. if the circuit pulls over this, well we all know the smell or are about to. So 75 va divided by 25 volts = 3 amps, nearly double the load. Hope this makes sense.
 
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#20 ·
Related?

I had my muffler replaced at a reputable shop. It didn't sound right, so I looked under the car. It was installed BACKWARDS!

I took it back. The car was returned. It still didn't sound right. It was still on BACKWARDS!!

I took it back the third time and an EXPERIENCED tech took a look at it and when I went to pick it up is said that the exhaust pipe that was installed was bent improperly from the factory and that the kid that installed it said "IT FIT BETTER THAT WAY".

Sounds like the 45 VA xformer fitting in the 75 VA space.
 
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