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Bad ground or bad connection some where in the electrical system. - yes some people say sensor but its just as likely the connector for that sensor was the problem and it gets "fixed"when the sensor is replaced

the last thing I'd suspect is the ecu - check other areas first - you need a good factory wiring diagraham for your vehicle 1st
 
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Bad ground or bad connection some where in the electrical system. - yes some people say sensor but its just as likely the connector for that sensor was the problem and it gets "fixed"when the sensor is replaced

the last thing I'd suspect is the ecu - check other areas first - you need a good factory wiring diagraham for your vehicle 1st
The two pins that are supposed to have power (pins 3 & 9) have power.

The two pins that are supposed to have ground (pins 11 & 12) have ground.

Still no "check engine light" still no fire.

The fuel pump and ASD relays do get SOME power when the ignition is turned to on (like 1 volt).

So I guess I need to figure out which pins energize those relays. If I only get 1 volt at the pins themselves, RIGHT AT THE ECU, then I'm afraid I have no choice but to condem the ECU. Granted, if I get 12 volts from those PINS THEMSELVES, then I have a bad connection TO THE RELAY. Otherwise, I guess I have a bad board.

Any comments or criticisms of this line of reasoning, please let me know.

Regards
 
I have found that power isn't always power .

I have a 93 bonneville supercharged with self leveling suspension ( read auto inflating shocks when there are fatties in the back seat)

it wouldn't pump up - looked like I had two or three bodies in the trunk.

anyways 1st thing I pulled the relay that operates the air comp ( btw this is all factory stuff) bench tested it - ok

then went through the various components 2 hrs later I tested that same relay and the problem was under load it would pull in but the contacts were not letting a full amps/volts through even though not loading the contacts but energising the coil pulled the relay in and I saw 12 v go through the points replacing the relay solved the problem.

I'm also saying even though you see 12v at the pins maybe your ground is better than the ecu on 12 v systems grounding points are critical try checking the ground connections too
 
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There should be a fuel inertia switch either in the right front kick panel or in the right rear wheel well compartment. It stops the fuel pump when you get hit in the rear, or the wife backs into your truck ;)etc.

The crank sensor should only apply spark.

Could be a simple ignition switch worn out.

Try turning the key to on, let it sit a minute and go to start.
 
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You could jack up the radiator cap and run a new car under it. Keep in mind that if you're using a digital voltmeter to measure voltages at pins, the digital meter may not load the circuit enough to show a poor connection. Try to back probe the connectors while they are connected. You can also order Alldata Cd on your vehicle for about 25 to 30 bucks.
 
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OK, so I yanked the ecu out of my Jeep and swapped with hers. When I turned the key on, guess what...The CEL comes on!!

Woohoo, I've found the problem.

I didn't actually crank it, because my ECU is for manual transmission, and hers is for automatic. They both have the same 60 pin connector, but I'm worried that if I actually start her Jeep with mine, the computer might try to flip on switches that "aren't there" and short out MY board, thus doubling my problem.

But in addition to the CEL coming on like it's supposed to, I also heard the fuel pump prime.

Think I've about got this one licked.
 
OK, so I yanked the ecu out of my Jeep and swapped with hers. When I turned the key on, guess what...The CEL comes on!!

Woohoo, I've found the problem.

I didn't actually crank it, because my ECU is for manual transmission, and hers is for automatic. They both have the same 60 pin connector, but I'm worried that if I actually start her Jeep with mine, the computer might try to flip on switches that "aren't there" and short out MY board, thus doubling my problem.

But in addition to the CEL coming on like it's supposed to, I also heard the fuel pump prime.

Think I've about got this one licked.

good luck - don't forget checking the connectors too for issues
 
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