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Questions on cast iron unit bearing motors

3.6K views 11 replies 7 participants last post by  lytning  
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I have two questions about these little condenser fan motors. Non relate to any one specific unit, just a broad discussion.

There are usually at least 4 or 5 of these motors in every restaurant I work in. Nearly all are 115 volt. The difference is usually only in rotation (cw/ccw) and wattage (6/9). Space is limited on my truck. I think even if I drove a semi as a work truck I wouldn't have everything I need every time. So to conserve space I'd like to start stocking only the 9 watt motors in each rotation.

Is there a problem with putting a 9 watt motor in the place of a 6 watt? I can't see why a little more power to spin a fan blade would be a problem. It may spin a few rpm faster due to a smaller load but that can't hurt anything. Heck, most of these kitchens run in the high 80's* so more air to the coil would be a good thing.

My second question has to do with wiring these condenser fan motors to run non stop. A lot of places cram units so tight together that they are often recirculating air or just not getting enough. Customers would rather pay for the bi-yearly compressor than move the unit to a place with more air flow. Also, there are a lot of built-ins where they stuff the condensing units anywhere they can put them, paying no attention to the available air.

Sometimes I install little axial fans to run continually and draw the hot air out. That has served me very well over the years. But instead of going through that trouble could I just wire the condenser fan motor to run 100% of the time? I think coils might get dirty faster but other than that the refrigeration should all still be fine. I think? I have been told many times over the years that an electric motor endures the most stress every time they start up. True? If so, would these little motor last longer if they ran all the time?
 
#2 ·
#1 yes... ive put 9 watt motors in place of the 6 watts. I wouldnt even carry the 6 watt motors.
Never had a problem.
The only times ive had to use a 6 watt is for when the 9 watt physically wont fit.

#2 yup...its been done. Just have to tap into your hot wire coming into the unit and not off the switched wire from the stat.
Alot of silverking units never shut the condenser fans off they run 24/7

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And speaking of it not fitting... "giggity LOL"...

I've ran across some 6 watt motors where you either 100% have to use that exact motor or a special "slim" 6 watt.
United ref clued me into it.

It was on a federal display case. Bad 6 watt evap fan. Tried 3 different motors and they were just barely too big and the fan blade would hit the shroud.

Got that slim one from united...fit perfectly

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I'd like to add another question to this thread if I may. Usually these motors come in the choice of either cast iron or aluminum. Is one better than the other in any way? What's the point of the wholesaler stocking both kinds?
 
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Speaking of it not fitting, had one last month, randell with copeland condensing unit, had a 5411 9w replacement mtr replaced by our last tech, blade 100% in the shroud almost moving no air, and motor almost touching compressor, couldn't move it back any. Screw it I said, I unscrewed whole dang condenser coil, moved it out an inch, screwed it back into plastic condenser base. Peeeerrrrrrfect sometimes gotta think outside the box!

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