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House remodel project, close but not quite done. 2 WSHP on a 4 well loop , almost all new duct. The job needs some clean up on my part a lot on the part of others. I still have some duct sealing to get done. All I ask is if your going to beat me with a rubber hose on me at least cover it with 2" thick Armiflex. Lol

 
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Thank you. I'm sure there are some things I missed, maybe I did a good job of hiding them with camera angle.
 
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damn dude! you're pex and wiring looks like schit!! ::DD:


(i dont see any issues)


looks good. it really takes bravery to post on ***. Not many here do it
 
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damn dude! you're pex and wiring looks like schit!! ::DD:


(i dont see any issues)


looks good. it really takes bravery to post on ***. Not many here do it
Yeah, I can't take credit for the pex or electrical, not that I would want to.
 
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Designed, measured, made, and installed with my own 10 little fingers.

I like making the Ells, offsets, tees, etc. but the straight duct is boring. It's fun figuring out how to take flat steel and make it bend, curve, and change direction.
 
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Well you do a mighty fine job at it sir. I love the look of fresh new shiny ductwork in a basement, makes me sad when they cover it up.
 
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Damn good work sir. You out duel me at metal by about 10,000%. My ductwork would wind up backwards and probably on the outside of the building.
 
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Well you do a mighty fine job at it sir. I love the look of fresh new shiny ductwork in a basement, makes me sad when they cover it up.
I have to agree. I have always said there is science and art to duct work. Part of the art is understanding how the air will move through it, the other is it does have an art quality to it with the lines and shapes. I love going into old houses and looking at the hand made duct with no round fittings. The duct is graduated at each takeoff with the individual runs having Ells and offsets in them to get where they need to go.
 
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A thing of beauty! You can be proud of that.
 
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Looks great. Only thing I see is that one offset on the return is pretty choked off where it goes by that stud. Carpenters should have given you one more stud space for your chase. Overall VERY NICE work though. Miles above what most outfits would do.

If you are talking about the return by the wall that offset reduces from 18" to 12" in that offset, and while it may not look like it the smallest part of the offset is at the end. It's a large enough offset that it could have been 2 Ells but the throats would have made it to tight. This will give it smoother flow.
 
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I have to agree. I have always said there is science and art to duct work. Part of the art is understanding how the air will move through it, the other is it does have an art quality to it with the lines and shapes. I love going into old houses and looking at the hand made duct with no round fittings. The duct is graduated at each takeoff with the individual runs having Ells and offsets in them to get where they need to go.
I'm actually working on a custom duct job right now that I drew inspiration from old style ductwork. It's all custom 6" tall duct with graduated takeoffs and full radius 90s for take offs. I am cheating a little for time and money sake and transitioning to round pipe for the runs but it was a necessary evil since it's basically charity work for my in-laws. There will be pictures in the near future of that one.

I find it very difficult to price out larger jobs for all custom ductwork. My pace varies, generally I consider myself pretty quick at fabrication but some days, not so much. If you priced it out to, any suggestions?
 
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I'm actually working on a custom duct job right now that I drew inspiration from old style ductwork. It's all custom 6" tall duct with graduated takeoffs and full radius 90s for take offs. I am cheating a little for time and money sake and transitioning to round pipe for the runs but it was a necessary evil since it's basically charity work for my in-laws. There will be pictures in the near future of that one.

I find it very difficult to price out larger jobs for all custom ductwork. My pace varies, generally I consider myself pretty quick at fabrication but some days, not so much. If you priced it out to, any suggestions?
I did a job at an old farm house a few years ago, original duct, all graduated, ran from one end of the basement to the other. They were adding an addition on to the far end of the house. Because of better insulation and tighter construction the equipment was sized right yet for the house. The duct was big enough to handle the air needed but because it was graduated at each takeoff It didn't matter how far I went back it wasn't big enough to extend into the addition. So I had to rip out all this beautiful duct work. I should have taken a picture of it.

As far as pricing it? That's always tough. I know about how long it takes to build each fitting. I have a Ductmaster to stamp out the straight lengths of duct, so I know about how long that takes to stamp, bend and hammer. And if everything is pretty clean, few obstructions, etc. I can hang pretty fast. So that is just a matter of guesstimating time on. The problem I have is knowing how much time it takes on the prep work so you have everything in line to hang. Like if you use the joist as return {I know, bad news}, putting up the panning, sealing the joist space, headers, opening the top of the duct, etc. Those little thing seem to take more time than the actual hanging. Back when I had a helper I could easily keep them running doing the prep work trying to stay ahead of me hanging.

On this job I didn't figure enough time because I had not figured on having to work around as much stuff as I did. That's the fun of remodels, you never know exactly what you will run into.
 
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A former TM I had once told me I was anal about my installs. I took it as a compliment but I don't think she meant it that way.
 
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That's the problem, most jobs I do I have that head slap moment when I get back to the shop "Damn, I should have taken some pics".
 
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