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Condenser fan running half speed

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#1 ·
I have a stumper... went on a call for no cooling on a old York split. Found the compressor tripped on high head. Found that the condenser fan is running only half speed. Checked capacitor and it was spot on at 15MF and amp draw was spot on too at 1.5 amps. Also checked voltage which also was fine at 460 volts. Figured the motor must be bad so I replaced it along with the capacitor. Also replaced the three pole contact see it was extremely pitted.
Now here is the kicker. The new fan is doing the same thing. Amp draws, capacitor and voltage are all spot on. Power in is three phase and the condenser fan is single phase using two of the legs. Checked three phase power in and all three legs are good. I also pulled the wires to the tandem compressors and only ran the fan and still half speed. Even OHMed all the wires to the fan motor and they were fine.

What am I not seeing....
 
#2 ·
Possible that someone replaced the motor with an 850 rpm instead of 1145 rpm?
That one has caught me before.
Same with run caps. In fact today I called carrier to confirm capacitor size because I had a slow condenser fan on a rooftop unit.
Someone had installed a 7.5 mfd when the motor needed a 10.
 
#3 · (Edited)
The motor I installed was the same as what was removed which was 1175 rpm. Funny thing is the condenser next to the one I’m have problems with also had bad bearings in the condenser fan and I also replaced that motor too. Exactly the same motor and capacitor. New capacitors on both per motor requirements
 
#10 ·
It does not have a speed controller somewhere in the circuit does it? The behavior sounds like what happens when the pressure transducer goes bad on a Johnson Controls p266 head pressure controller. It goes into "limp home mode" and runs the fan at half speed.
 
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#11 ·
Is there a fan cycling switch or a motor master for the cond fan. If so bypass it temporarily for a test. Also try hooking the fan up by itself to the line side of the contactor, if same results try moving the wires to diffent phases. Something is wrong , just haven't found it yet...is the motor pulling max amps at 1/2 speed?
 
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#15 ·
Run wires from L1 L2 of contactor direct to cap and motor. What happens? What does motor tach at?
Maybe label has wrong rpm stamped.
What rpm CFMotor , does unit call for?
Does it speed up when the condenser access door is removed?

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#17 ·
Problem solved. Had a transformer and ambient switch installed aftermarket that was not included in the electrical schematic and I was assuming all legs were going directly to the motor per the print. Long story short ambient switch failed causing fan to run half speed through the transformer all the time regardless of the outside temperature.
 
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