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Advice on furnace gas valve repair/replace

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First time poster, thanks for your time! During the home inspection for the sale of our home we discovered the on/off knob of the gas valve to our furnace appears to have a leak. If you get your nose within an inch or two you can smell the gas. It's a Carrier Payne furnace and the model of the gas valve is EF32CK181 (~30 years old). I'm fairly mechanical so I took the valve apart and all the internals look fine, no obvious signs of wear or damage. I'm curious if this sort of leak is typical in your experience? It seems like I have two options at this point since that particular gas valve is no longer manufactured: buy a used one on ebay and have a pro install it or go with the new model that supposedly replaces the old. I'm worried if I buy the used one it will just have the same problem? What would you suggest?

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Surprised the inspector didn't say anything about the CSST gas connector pipe you got there, yellow crap. Against code if that pipe is running through the metal body fron the exterior into the interior of the furnace. No respecting technician would do that!

I would call in a Pro, we carried the universal valves to replace most of those intermittent spark systems. If you have the 3-wire pilot assembly then your technician should be able to get an OEM valve from Carrier, they are still available.

Once you crack open a gas valve, it is deemed kapoot. No rebuilding and no re-gasketing, simply scrap. Loses the UL listing, too.

Only advise we can give you is call in a PRO and get a NEW gas valve installed, and while the tech is there have him/her remove that flexible gas pipe and hard pipe it out of the furnace, then re-connect the flex pipe. This has DIY written all over it so high probability this thread will be closed by the moderators. GOOD LUCK
 
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Surprised the inspector didn't say anything about the CSST gas connector pipe you got there, yellow crap. Against code if that pipe is running through the metal body fron the exterior into the interior of the furnace. No respecting technician would do that!

I would call in a Pro, we carried the universal valves to replace most of those intermittent spark systems. If you have the 3-wire pilot assembly then your technician should be able to get an OEM valve from Carrier, they are still available.

Once you crack open a gas valve, it is deemed kapoot. No rebuilding and no re-gasketing, simply scrap. Loses the UL listing, too.

Only advise we can give you is call in a PRO and get a NEW gas valve installed, and while the tech is there have him/her remove that flexible gas pipe and hard pipe it out of the furnace, then re-connect the flex pipe. This has DIY written all over it so high probability this thread will be closed by the moderators. GOOD LUCK
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#4 ·
You opened the valve. It’s now faulty and unusable.
Have the heat exchanger checked in that old thing. It’s likely cracked. The furnace isn’t installed to code anyway.
 
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buy a used one on ebay and have a pro install it...
It baffles me that people really think there are actual “Pros” that will perform a task like this. What you really mean is, see if you can find side-job hustler with a license to take full responsibility in case your house burns down, or kills your family with CO poisoning.

Quit being cheap and buy a new damn furnace. Geeeeeeeeeesh!
 
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#8 ·
Thank you all for the quick replies. I am not reusing the opened valve, I cracked it open merely because it was already defective and I wanted to understand the malfunction before considering buying a used replacement. In any case I got a quote to install a new valve and bring the piping up to code. It's pretty spendy for an old unit so I think I'll let the buyers decide if they'd prefer I have it all fixed or just give them the money and they can put it towards a new unit.

Side note to partially restore your faith in inspectors - he did call out the CSST passing through the furnace as well as the need for a sediment trap.

Thanks again!
 
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There are a ton of reasonably priced valves to replace that one.
But the question becomes what kind of shape is the rest of the unit in?
Replacing the gas valve is probably 1/10th of the way to a new furnace.
Nevermind a burner control or a blower motor.
I'd be pulling the blower to have a good look at the hx before putting a valve in
 
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