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Discussion starter · #21 ·
cpark,

Oh yeah, my place is tiny... simple square footage is 924 sq ft and I have less than that inside in all actuality.

Mine is a singlewide so I have one big square duct running the length with 6 ducts that my system blows down into.
 
Yea under 1000 is small, nothing wrong with that especially when it comes to the electricity bill :D
Just make sure the person you are working with knows about sizing and does not just throw his 2.5 ton systems in 1-12 bedroom houses because he bought 20 of them and wants to unload them.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Yeah, this is a little 2 bed 2 bath....
And originally I thought some space might be added on...

And the original contractor suggested 2.5 ton and high seer, as he thought I might add on too. So we did 2.5 ton 12 seer outdoor and 3 ton indoor back in 1996... and nothing was ever added on.

One of the two guys who did the changeout was one of the original contractors from 1996.
The other was the Rheem guy.
The two of them decided just the two of them would team up on this odd request of mine.

Now what I have outside is a 2 ton 10 seer. And inside is either 2.5 or 3 ton... I can't tell from Allstyle's website. It is model ASRSP366322.

This is all I could find...

http://www.allstyle.com/casedUncasedImages/Uncased.pdf
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
You would expect long shutoff after long run. Any other changes to the home? How leaky is it, can you get a blower door test done?
Like I say... the house is actually really good at maintaining temp.
It takes it a long time to heat up or as of right now cool down...

Like it has been 55 out for several hours now... and the temp has only dropped 4 degrees since outdoor temp fell below indoor temp... and that was with the help of the AC kicking on a few times for short cycles.

Not sure what you mean by the blower door test... but I assume what is passing by instead of going through the coil??? If so that was sealed off the day of install and made a big difference in temperature at the registers. They installed a new tray but didn't get it perfect the first try... they re-worked it and I installed weather stripping to totally seal off.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
Oh crap... and thanks for posting dude... and making me write the above...

Just realized it's the F'n thermostat!!!!

It's bad.


Well, either it is bad or the secondary thermometer you guys suggested I pick up is bad.

The reason is... still the thermostat temp reading has not budged off 74 degrees.
Yet right now my thermometer reads 70 degrees... and has a stored low of 68 degrees from earlier.

There is no way it is 74 in here right now.
 
You would expect long shutoff after long run. Any other changes to the home? How leaky is it, can you get a blower door test done?
tedkidd may be on to something here, ELS. If everything is tight inside by the unit and you have leaky ducts under your trailer, your house may be going under NEGATIVE PRESSURE and the hot humid air is being sucked it at every crack and crevice.

But that still does not explain the 5 min. off time, that is usually a product of how quickly the heat can penetrate your building, not negative pressure. I just can't see your trailer staying negatively pressurized after the unit turns off!

Mike...
 
From what I read, I would have to agree with Frosted and some of the others. Leaking ductwork.
Your stat might be bad. Check the stat location. Is the hole in the wall behind the stat sealed? You could get a draft from inside the wall leading outside.
Do you have ceiling fans in the same room as the stat? You wouldn't believe what a ceiling fan can do to some thermostats.
Larger digital thermostats have a lot of circuits, capacitors, resistors etc. that put off heat. The ceiling fan can actually push air down the wall and reverse the natural heat convection inside the stat. The temperature sensor is usually located at the bottom of the stat for that reason. (heat rises) I had a problem with one of Trane's digital stats. It would read 4-5 degrees off only when the ceiling fan was on.
 
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Discussion starter · #29 ·
I wanted to come back and update... and offer thanks to those who were willing to offer what they could.

To follow up, my electric bills went to literally DOUBLE and worse. Unreal.

I swapped out the thermostat for another like it. It started to perform much better. I mean it still runs a lot more than my old unit, but not as much as it was with the previous thermostat.

My power bill pretty much dropped back to normal for one month. December has given it a real workout though. I ended up dragging the tester back out and messing around with my fan speed some more... and made some changes that increased my heat temp at the register. That seemed to help... and for whatever reason, this caused my master area to go back to being hotter than the rest of the house as it used to be with the old system.

But here again my bill is real high. But others are complaining the same thing, so I am going to assume for now that it's the Christmas gouge and wait to see what the next bill looks like.


Overall, I think these days my house is more comfortable at all times than it was before... and if the normal electric bills return again, I will assume this thing runs more while consuming around the same energy. Some day I think I will buy another totally different thermostat that has the features this one does, but also allows me to set how much the temp changes before it cycles back on. I also don't like how I don't know my backup heat is cycled on unless I feel or smell it.

As for my fan setup, I am still confused and unhappy with it. It is different now and does not seem to operate at variable speeds like it did before this install. Haven't quite figured that out.

As for the Rheem stuff... as an end user I am just going to be bluntly honest. I still have the belief this equipment might just be of higher quality than what I had. But outside of that I would be lying if I said I was impressed with it otherwise.

Frankly I am not really impressed at all with the abilities or the operation. Noise is one aspect of it. It's not really quite inside nor out. And it will at times make some strange noises outside occasionally that really concerned me at first. I have since figured out other ones I have paid attention to do it as well occasionally just like mine does. And I can hear the unit cycling outside sometimes, and the defrost is loud too.

And while I am thinking about defrost, it does not take much for it to trip into defrost... which cycles my backup heat. I noticed this when I first started using the heat... heard a weird noise outside and smelled the strips come on for the first time. I walked out in confusion. Still yet, I find that it never has visible frost/ice I can see. Don't know if this is normal for Rheem or not???

As for the indoor coil, again looks like a nicer piece... but I am certain it does not flow near as well, and it creates more noise. I swear when I open my door, it sounds like my fan slows down? Very wierd... can't tell if it really does that or if it is just a reduction in noise.


In the end, unless this system wins me over during the life of it, I do not believe I will own Rheem again. I believe I will instead go with some other unit that many installers peer down their noses at because it is not a Rheem or a Rudd or a Trane or whatever... I just think I will redistribute the saved beans into better efficiency, more BTU, upgrading the indoor coil, TXV, and so forth....

Not trying to ruffle any feathers with that, just trying to be honest and offer up some end-user feedback for those of you that have some appreciation for insight coming from your potential customer's point of view.
 
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