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Came across this the other day, it was a new one for me. Supposedly it's more of a custom type chiller... but I have never heard of the brand before... is it legit? Good quality?
 
Good chillers and getting better. Save a lot of energy at part loads.
Go to Smardt and Danfloss/turbocor.com web site. Kiltech and Turbocor programming takes getting use to.
 
I have been working with the Turbocor compressors which Smardt are using and I have also worked with the Kiltech controls here in Australia. both good products.

does take some time to get used to the electronics but remember the compressor still operates on basic fundamentals, so keep things simple when working with them and look at your systems.
 
Smardt has a nice very high efficiency machine, better than McQuay because of their Kiltech MP and non-proprietary nature.

The problem with Smardt is that they are Canadian based and haven't figured out how to deal/work with US contractors making Smardt seem not real smart when trying to buy a machine or get info. from them. The excessive pain incurred when dealing with Smardt may make you want to consider Multi-Stack.
 
Here's my view of the three Mag Bearing Chiller Manufacturers:

McQuay: Owned by Daiken (Japan) and was the first manufacturer to produce a flooded chiller with multiple Turbocor compressors - started producing in early 2000's. They make only a 2-compressor chiller up to about 600-tons. The control of two compressors on a common shell is very simple in comparisson to the other manufacturers who are building systems with six or eight compressors.

Smardt: Privately owned and located in Montreal. Produce multiple compressor chillers up to about 1,000 tons. They can build chillers with up to 6 compressors, giving them a significant part load efficiency advantage over machines with only two compressors. They are about 5-years old and were created specifically to build these types of chillers. They build nothing else and have the kinds of issues that 5-year old companies have. They seem not to have the service support of the other two players.

Multistack: Privately owned, located in Wisconsin. Will produce multiple compressor chillers >1,000 tons. Multistack is the newest entry into the Flooded Turbocor Chiller market, but has been in production with DX Turbocor chillers for longer than the other players (about 8 or 9 years). They can build chillers with up to 8 compressors, giving them a significant part load efficiency advantage over the two compressor manufacturer in systems with more than two compressors. They also seem to have the most experience in making these systems work, especially after this year as they have absorbed much of what was the Danfoss Turbocor Retrofit Group into their organization.

FYI, the Danfoss Turbocor Compressor is very complex. Controlling these compressors is the key to making them work and is a significant burier for manufacturers to enter this part of the market...

That's my $0.02...
 
nice product with more of an industrial feel as compared to the others. being a relatively new company, they have not prettied up the chillers yet, but the technology is real good. i dont necessarily agree about the lack of support, we have no problem getting them on the phone, or a response via email is rather easy.
 
Smardt has a nice very high efficiency machine, better than McQuay because of their Kiltech MP and non-proprietary nature.

The problem with Smardt is that they are Canadian based and haven't figured out how to deal/work with US contractors making Smardt seem not real smart when trying to buy a machine or get info. from them. The excessive pain incurred when dealing with Smardt may make you want to consider Multi-Stack.
I doubt that cause we can assume most of their business is done in the states rather then Canada, so naturally they would have figured out how to deal with US contractors. Recently, I heard they had expanded and built a factory in the Plattsburg, so i guess that theory goes up in smoke.
 
I doubt that cause we can assume most of their business is done in the states rather then Canada, so naturally they would have figured out how to deal with US contractors. Recently, I heard they had expanded and built a factory in the Plattsburg, so i guess that theory goes up in smoke.
Chiiler Me, how many Smardt chillers have you bought or been involved with buying? I'd bet the answer is zero.

We're real glad for your comments even though you have no experience with Smardt.
 
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