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In my last thread I explanined that on my new install they contaminated the system. The tech is going to purge the system and add a filter dryer to it. Is this all he will need to do?

I have read that once the system is contaminated with moisture it causes an acidic reaction and this in turn reduces the life of the compressor and other parts dramatically. I am now concerned that I maybe should be asking for it all to be replaced with another new one.

Should I be?

Txgal
 
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I have not read your old thread but there is no way to measure the life expectancy of a compressor. Heck ever doctors can't tell with any real accuracy how long their patients will last. It could very well out last your home for all we know.
And as far as asking for a new system to be put in. Its not like asking for a new plate of food at a restaurant, it's more like asking Chevrolet to replace your corvette because one of their mechanics may have put the wrong grade of fuel in it.
You would be wise to try to get something in writing from this company saying that if there is a problem down the road they will fix it instead of starting a legal battle with them. You ever hear the saying you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. ;)
 
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Your system can be cleaned up fine. So long as the replace driers maybe add a suction drier and pull it down and HOLD it to the proper micro level. But they have to pull a proper vacuum and hold it to ensure there is no moisture in it. Adding driers may obsorbe moisture , you want it gone.
 
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Systems can be cleaned up.

Evacuation and filter driers are the way to do so.

Maybe ask for an acid test on the system a week or so after the drier is changed and further action to be taken pending outcome of the test.

Those acidic reactions take a long time to happen, not overnight.
 
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I will do that and thank you for the reply. I was concerned it will void the warranty since the install went bad and that maybe there was somthing else he needed to do besides purge the system. 3 weeks old and I just want the system to work right and be worth what I paid for it.

Have a great weekend and thanks again for the advice.


Txgal
 
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No drier was installed

jpsmith1cm said:
Systems can be cleaned up.

Evacuation and filter driers are the way to do so.

Maybe ask for an acid test on the system a week or so after the drier is changed and further action to be taken pending outcome of the test.

Those acidic reactions take a long time to happen, not overnight.
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Thank you for your reply. There was no drier installed and the unit has been running most of the 3 weeks since it was installed. There are hot spots on the coils and they drip. I fashioned a way to catch the water for some use as we have had this horrific heat wave. I didn't know until 2 days ago that the lines were contaminated or I would have kept it shut off and found somewhere to stay.

Since I know that the system can be purged ok I will just get something in wiritng and ask for the acid test and take it from there.

Thank you all for the replies.
 
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I would also have them remove the schrader`s and blow the system out with nitrogen.Have him leave 1 hose off and blow it throu till it comes out where his hose would hook on.Then blow it out in the other direction hook the hose up where it was coming out and blow more back throu.Then vacume it down as long as possiable the longer the better.
 
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No

the dangling wrangler said:
I don't remember the other thread.

If the condensing unit was replaced too, good chance it had a drier internally installed.
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It has a muffler ? internally and supposedly came with the filter drier to put inline but they didn't install it. That is what I was told anyway.

New Ducane condenser and an Allied coil, they are compatible and duckwork ok and is compatable with the heater unit too. About day 2 I knew it wasn't right. The coils were not real cold and the ones toward the top were barely cool. Then the ones at the top were warm and it has progressed down the coils mainly on the right side dripping water directly down instead of normal flow into the pan. Freon ok so the tech figured the guys who installed it contaminated the system. It is supposed to be corrected Tuesday.


Thank you all so much for the replies. Because of the forum I gained knowledge that I can discuss with him and I don't think anything would have been done if I hadn't known what to ask or confront him with. I gained a lot of confidence to where when I called him back I told him it was definately a coil issue, I thought the system was contaminated causing hot spots on the coil, and I expected it to be fixed. He looked so shocked as I have just accepted the answers he gave me so far.

Have a great weekend.

txgal
 
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Will tell him

mb20fan said:
I would also have them remove the schrader`s and blow the system out with nitrogen.Have him leave 1 hose off and blow it throu till it comes out where his hose would hook on.Then blow it out in the other direction hook the hose up where it was coming out and blow more back throu.Then vacume it down as long as possiable the longer the better.
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I will tell him what you have suggested to do. Sounds like this will take time huh.

Thanks

txgal
 
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tx_gal said:
It has a muffler ? internally and supposedly came with the filter drier to put inline but they didn't install it. That is what I was told anyway.

New Ducane condenser and an Allied coil, they are compatible and duckwork ok and is compatable with the heater unit too. About day 2 I knew it wasn't right. The coils were not real cold and the ones toward the top were barely cool. Then the ones at the top were warm and it has progressed down the coils mainly on the right side dripping water directly down instead of normal flow into the pan. Freon ok so the tech figured the guys who installed it contaminated the system. It is supposed to be corrected Tuesday.


Thank you all so much for the replies. Because of the forum I gained knowledge that I can discuss with him and I don't think anything would have been done if I hadn't known what to ask or confront him with. I gained a lot of confidence to where when I called him back I told him it was definately a coil issue, I thought the system was contaminated causing hot spots on the coil, and I expected it to be fixed. He looked so shocked as I have just accepted the answers he gave me so far.

Have a great weekend.

txgal
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I've installed a million Ducane furnaces,never a condensing unit though. Hard to believe they'd have a muffler factory installed, but, anythings possible I guess.
 
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tx_gal said:
I will tell him what you have suggested to do. Sounds like this will take time huh.

Thanks

txgal
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It will take a good 1/2 hr but if there is anything in it that should not be it will get blowen out.It will take a few for it to run thru the whole system.Now you will know what your talking about so they can`t bull **** you.Good luck have a good weekend
 
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Maybe it doesn't

the dangling wrangler said:
I've installed a million Ducane furnaces,never a condensing unit though. Hard to believe they'd have a muffler factory installed, but, anythings possible I guess.
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I have been told so much from this guy that wasn't correct that maybe it doesn't have a muffler. When he came and told me yes, the coils were contaminated he said there was no filter on it but it probably had a muffler since it was precharged at the factory. I did read in the condensoer papers that it came with a filter but this was after he had left. So, who knows but he and another tech are going to come Tuesday to purge the lines and fix it I hope.
 
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Thank You

mb20fan said:
It will take a good 1/2 hr but if there is anything in it that should not be it will get blowen out.It will take a few for it to run thru the whole system.Now you will know what your talking about so they can`t bull **** you.Good luck have a good weekend
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I do feel confident now to have the information to know what they should be doing and how my system is supposed to work. Nothing is worse than to have someone tell you nothing is wrong with the system and you know there is. He would come in and touch the coils and say "See. They are cold and sweating". There is nothing wrong with it. Until the few quit getting cold at all I really had nothing to back me up.

I will take the suggestions and tell him this is what was suggested by PROS.

Thank you again.

Txgal
 
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