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Have received a few quotes for Bryant Preferred Series replacement units. I'm trying to compare 2 quotes.

#1 Bryant 126C 2.5 Ton Single Stage 15.5 SEER 12.6 EER 29200 BTUH

#2 Bryant 126S 2.5 Ton Single Stage 16.5 SEER 13.5 EER (brochure given to me has 126B circled, but quote links directly to Bryant website and 126S 2023 model).

Can anyone provide some insight into the main product difference (if any) between the 126C vs 126S (or 126B)? Looks like the 126C can go up to 17 SEER and the 126S tops out at 16.5 SEER.

Not seeing 126C on the Bryant site so maybe it a 2021/2022 model?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Ask for the AHRI number of each system as you don’t go by the outdoor unit rating alone. Looks like the 126S is the current variation as you mentioned.

What do you have for complete model numbers of indoor(s) and outdoor section?

SEER2 and EER2 took effect in 1/23 for ratings vs the old SEER and EER.

Federal Tax Credits and state rebates come into play if system meets efficiency requirements.

The current lines of 126S ( comes with hi/lo pressure safety switch and compressor sound blanket if reading it correctly ) , but depending on model numbers of the older 126 further down the model number there is a letter designation that may/may not says hi and lo pressure safety switches are included on the unit. Looks like the 126CNA has similar features.

https://www.bryant.com/en/us/products/air-conditioners/126s/

https://www.bryant.com/en/us/products/air-conditioners/126cna/

Read the differences..

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Bazooka Joe said:
Ask for the AHRI number of each system as you don’t go by the outdoor unit rating alone. Looks like the 126S is the current variation as you mentioned.

What do you have for complete model numbers of indoor(s) and outdoor section?
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I have a newer Bryant furnace installed in 2019. Model is 926TB48080V17A.

The AHRI for the 126CNA unit is 202110707.

Based on searching the 126S model number of 126SAN02400W and finding my furnace model noted above, the AHRI number should be 207912443.

The 126CNA has a listed cooling capacity of 29200 btuh whereas the 126S item has a cooling capacity of 23400 btuh. This is essentially a 20% difference and logic tells me that this is probably a significant difference (house is 1700 finished sq ft in Minnesota).

The 126CNA (inactive model) is rated at 15.5 SEER while the 126S (active model) is rated at 16 SEER and 15.2 SEER2.

My interpretation at a high level then is that the 126CNA may operate a bit less efficiently but will have 20% more cooling power whereas the 126S may operate more efficiently, but will have less cooling power...right?
 
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The 207912443 shows it’s a 2 ton ( 23400 btuh. ) outdoor unit, with a 2.5 ton coil, the other AHRI number 202110707 looks to be 2.5 ton outdoor unit with a 2.5 ton coil so your not comparing same systems. Back to the Contractor or pick what you want and tell the Contractor to bid that system.
 
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If,…homework was done correctly,…. looks like active AHRI number for the 2.5 ton 126S and 2.5 ton indoor is 207928363 gives SEER2 15.2 and EER2 12.5, SEER 16 and EER 13 and 28400 BTU, not real world numbers but you get an idea of ratings on paper.

https://www.ahridirectory.org/
 
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Bazooka Joe said:
If,…homework was done correctly,…. looks like active AHRI number for the 2.5 ton 126S and 2.5 ton indoor is 207928363 gives SEER2 15.2 and EER2 12.5, SEER 16 and EER 13 and 28400 BTU, not real world numbers but you get an idea of ratings on paper.
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Turns out the AHRI # of the 126S unit is 207974044.

So from a novice perspective, the two units look pretty similar to me. AHRI of 126CNA is 202110707 and 126S is 207974044.

126CNA
AHRI 202110707
Cooling Cap 29200 (2017 ratings)
EER 12.6 (2017 ratings)
SEER 15.5 (2017 ratings)
Production Stopped


126S
AHRI 207974044
Cooling Cap 29000 (2017 ratings)
EER 13.0 (2017 ratings)
SEER 16.0 (2017 ratings)
Cooling Cap 28000 (2023 ratings)
EER 12.0 (2023 ratings)
SEER 15.0 (2023 ratings)
Active Unit

Presumably, the 126CNA model would receive slightly less cooling capacity, SEER2, and EER2 ratings if it were to be rerated based on 2023 standards.

Would it base safe to say these are substantially similar and a substantial price difference between two highly rated and Bryant authorized dealers can be the deciding factor? Or what else should I be considering that I am unaware of?

Really appreciate all the insight.

Thanks.
 
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brianr64 said:
Turns out the AHRI # of the 126S unit is 207974044.

So from a novice perspective, the two units look pretty similar to me. AHRI of 126CNA is 202110707 and 126S is 207974044.

126CNA
AHRI 202110707
Cooling Cap 29200 (2017 ratings)
EER 12.6 (2017 ratings)
SEER 15.5 (2017 ratings)
Production Stopped


126S
AHRI 207974044
Cooling Cap 29000 (2017 ratings)
EER 13.0 (2017 ratings)
SEER 16.0 (2017 ratings)
Cooling Cap 28000 (2023 ratings)
EER 12.0 (2023 ratings)
SEER 15.0 (2023 ratings)
Active Unit

Presumably, the 126CNA model would receive slightly less cooling capacity, SEER2, and EER2 ratings if it were to be rerated based on 2023 standards.

Would it base safe to say these are substantially similar and a substantial price difference between two highly rated and Bryant authorized dealers can be the deciding factor? Or what else should I be considering that I am unaware of?

Really appreciate all the insight.

Thanks.
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Your not comparing like for like, the 207974044 has a 2.5 ton outdoor unit and a 3 ton indoor unit, the other AHRI number 202110707 shows a 2.5 ton outdoor and indoor unit. So what do you want a 3 ton indoor coil with a 2.5 ton outdoor unit or a 2.5 ton indoor and outdoor unit?

The AHRI number in post #6 ( 207928363 ) is for 2.5 ton indoor and outdoor sections.

Your 2023 rating for the 126S is not in SEER and EER as they started using SEER2, EER2 and for Heat Pumps HSPF2 starting in 1/23 to more accurately rate a system in a more real world install, that’s why the rating is lower. It should be 15 SEER2 and 12 EER2
 
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Bazooka Joe said:
Your not comparing like for like, the 207974044 has a 2.5 ton outdoor unit and a 3 ton indoor unit, the other AHRI number 202110707 shows a 2.5 ton outdoor and indoor unit. So what do you want a 3 ton indoor coil with a 2.5 ton outdoor unit or a 2.5 ton indoor and outdoor unit?

The AHRI number in post #6 ( 207928363 ) is for 2.5 ton indoor and outdoor sections.

Your 2023 rating for the 126S is not in SEER and EER as they started using SEER2, EER2 and for Heat Pumps HSPF2 starting in 1/23 to more accurately rate a system in a more real world install, that’s why the rating is lower. It should be 15 SEER2 and 12 EER2
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Where do I find the tonnage for the indoor unit? When I look up the model # for the 126S, you are right, I see it as 3 Ton. The quote I have shows the 126C Aspen Coil as 2.5T, but I have no idea how to look that up. What is the relevant lookup from the following: C(A,C,D,E)30D44+TDR as listed on AHRI site?

Is there any specific issue combining a 3T indoor unit with a 2.5T outdoor?
 
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brianr64 said:
Where do I find the tonnage for the indoor unit? When I look up the model # for the 126S, you are right, I see it as 3 Ton. The quote I have shows the 126C Aspen Coil as 2.5T, but I have no idea how to look that up. What is the relevant lookup from the following: C(A,C,D,E)30D44+TDR as listed on AHRI site?

Is there any specific issue combining a 3T indoor unit with a 2.5T outdoor?
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What do you want or are asking about? Why do you have to go Aspen coil and not a Bryant like the other system.

This thread is getting confusing.

Give me the outdoor unit model number and furnace model number and what do you want for size for coil, as this is a upflow application yes?

No issue combining a 3 ton indoor coil with a 2.5 ton outdoor unit.

So again what do you want, a 2.5 ton indoor to 2.5 ton outdoor unit, or 2.5 ton outdoor unit to 3 ton indoor unit, or you don’t care either way??

You want to find a indoor coil yourself, here you go, have at it,… don’t enter the complete model numbers of furnace and outdoor unit as the site will kick it out, just enter the outdoor unit and furnace number and see what coils come up. Then enter a letter or number at a time to whittle the matches down. No need to enter brand name.

https://www.ahridirectory.org/Searc...uickSearch?category=8&searchTypeId=3&producttype=68&SubmenuId=3500&ProgramId=68

How come your Contractor can’t do this for you, the least they can do to earn your business?
 
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Bazooka Joe said:
Why do you have to go Aspen coil and not a Bryant like the other system.

This thread is getting confusing.

Give me the outdoor unit model number and furnace model number and what do you want for size for coil, as this is a upflow application yes?

No issue combining a 3 ton indoor coil with a 2.5 ton outdoor unit.

So again what do you want, a 2.5 ton indoor to 2.5 ton outdoor unit, or 2.5 ton outdoor unit to 3 ton indoor unit, or you don’t care either way??
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Honestly, I do not care....I'm not an HVAC expert which is why I'm here trying to piece it together. You have enlightened me quite a bit. Yes my system is upflow.

I mention the Aspen as that is actually what I was quoted and what pops up when looking at AHRI 202110707.

Actual Quote 1 Bryant 126C 2.5 Ton with Aspen 2.5T A-Coil R-410A (more expensive quote)
Actual Quote 2 Bryant 126S 2.5 Ton with Carrier/Bryant 3T PURON UPFLOW / DOWNFLOW 17" CASED V-COIL Model CVPVA3617XMC (less expensive quote)

Based on your input, Quote 2 was already modified as the sales guy accidentally had a 2 Ton outdoor unit initially.

Both will be paired with existing furnace Model 926TB48080V17A.

Just trying to get independent opinion from an expert as I don't always trust sales guys for things that are out of my wheelhouse.

Leaning quote 2 since it is current model, Bryant Indoor/Outdoor and materially less than quote 1.

Is there any way I would even know if my indoor unit is 3T vs 2.5T from a comfort /efficiency perspective?
 
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Is there any way I would even know if my indoor unit is 3T vs 2.5T from a comfort /efficiency perspective?

Doubt it, but they tell me the larger the indoor coil to outdoor unit, may not remove the humidity as much as having the smaller coil, but being only .5 ton larger, thinking not.

What I would do is what’s on the contract for model numbers of each piece, make sure those two parts are actually the ones installed, as your furnace is an existing slightly older model.

We had a recent post here that they ( Installing Contractor) installed a different model number furnace, ans it was larger physical size and higher BTU rating, indoor coil and outdoor unit ( suppose to be a two stage and they installed a single stage ) that what the contract said without saying anything to the HO. That is just one case, older threads had similar situation, they changed one section and never said anything to the HO as to why, or run it past them.
 
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