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tarzanseal

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Got a warranty call from a national food processor. Their 2 door upright refrigerator located in the quality control laboratory not cooling. Unit was diagnosed with a plugged cap tube. The factory sent out a new compressor,cap tube, and drier. The tech installed everything and Weighed in the R290 refrigerant. Now 2 Months later the factory discovers that they sent out the wrong compressor. Now here’s my question. How could this work correctly for two months. This is in a lab and they record temperatures every hour. They have record sheet taped to the door. And are using external medical thermometers.Talked to the Tech and he says the process tubes suction, hot gas were exactly the same as the original compressor. So he didn’t think anything was wrong. The factory is sending out correct parts for us to redo.
 
A customer was telling me a coworker was working on a small chiller charged with propane. I don't know all the details but the fireball burned off his eyebrows.
 
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Put R134a in it and call it a day.
Save R290 pump for another day.
Can you do this without changing the cap tube? I feel a minority in a group of R290 haters. My experience has shown me that 290 is the best operating refrigerant I have ever worked with, if someone burns themselves or has a hazard working with it, they are careless. No good excuse for that.
 
I haven't tried it with R290 yet but have used R134a on R12 cap tubes and never had a problem.
Since R290 is close in operating pressures as R134a I would assume the same results.
I'll take that back now that I actually looked at the comparison R290 does run at a higher pressure for the same give temperature as R134a
Have a look at 90°f liquid temperature.
 

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I haven't tried it with R290 yet but have used R134a on R12 cap tubes and never had a problem.
Since R290 is close in operating pressures as R134a I would assume the same results.
I don't think that is correct, keep in mind also that the propane molecule is substantially smaller, thereby the efficient operating characteristics. From my PT chart pressure relationships put 290 closer to 404A. Some of the older R12 units which have had compressor changes to POE oil compressors, at that point 134A is a drop in. As for deliberately "going backwards", I don't think that is ever a good idea.
 
From what I have seen, because 290 is such an efficient gas, the compressors are gutless little things (and all the piping is smaller). I have to believe any retrofit back to standard refrigerants is a short term fix.
 
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