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I enjoy hearing regional terminology for things so what do you call this crimp connector?
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I will throw out the ones I have heard.
I've heard them called buchanans, bug connectors and dead ends. Dead ends is what my electric supply house calls them.

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...Bug connectors are split bolts. At least, that's what I call them.

As to the crimps in OP, call them 'crimp caps'.

Though, I like Zmax's term, accorn. In fact, that's what I'll be calling them from here on it.
 
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JayMan7 said:
I call them crimp nuts. I keep lots of them stocked. I really like those little guys.
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Me too last time I found a store with more than two packs on the shelf I think I bought six packs of the small ones but of course that store only had small ones so I'm still in search of larger quantities of the big ones. The guy at the counter said I only keep those for heating and air guys. I don't know why they like them so much but I've never once sold them to an electrician.

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Me too last time I found a store with more than two packs on the shelf I think I bought six packs of the small ones but of course that store only had small ones so I'm still in search of larger quantities of the big ones. The guy at the counter said I only keep those for heating and air guys. I don't know why they like them so much but I've never once sold them to an electrician.

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Luckily my local supply house stocks them!
 
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Crimp Nuts (a wire nut that gets crimped on)

And I do not like them however I will use them to prevent Handi Hacks from effing with stuff.

Years ago my son had an after market stereo installed in his car. It was free if you bought more than a $99 stereo and speakers.
Dip wads miss-wired all 4 speakers and when I took it in to make them fix it they said (for real) "We can't cut off the crimped on connectors".

Wrong thing to say ! I got the store manager and ended up getting the Kids money refunded for everything and he got to keep the (miss-wired) Stereo and speakers.
Unfortunately "Dad" (that would be me) had to figure it all out and fix it. They only got 2 wires correct, 12 volts and ground. I had to cut off everyone of those fkn crimp nut under the dash.
 
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Cagey57 said:
Crimp Nuts (a wire nut that gets crimped on)

And I do not like them however I will use them to prevent Handi Hacks from effing with stuff.

Years ago my son had an after market stereo installed in his car. It was free if you bought more than a $99 stereo and speakers.
Dip wads miss-wired all 4 speakers and when I took it in to make them fix it they said (for real) "We can't cut off the crimped on connectors".

Wrong thing to say ! I got the store manager and ended up getting the Kids money refunded for everything and he got to keep the (miss-wired) Stereo and speakers.
Unfortunately "Dad" (that would be me) had to figure it all out and fix it. They only got 2 wires correct, 12 volts and ground. I had to cut off everyone of those fkn crimp nut under the dash.
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I like them for anywhere that the wires will be bundled because it makes a neat tidy look but if the wires are running in a straight line I prefer to twist, solder, and heat shrink them.

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Cagey57 said:
Crimp Nuts (a wire nut that gets crimped on)

And I do not like them however I will use them to prevent Handi Hacks from effing with stuff.

Years ago my son had an after market stereo installed in his car. It was free if you bought more than a $99 stereo and speakers.
Dip wads miss-wired all 4 speakers and when I took it in to make them fix it they said (for real) "We can't cut off the crimped on connectors".

Wrong thing to say ! I got the store manager and ended up getting the Kids money refunded for everything and he got to keep the (miss-wired) Stereo and speakers.
Unfortunately "Dad" (that would be me) had to figure it all out and fix it. They only got 2 wires correct, 12 volts and ground. I had to cut off everyone of those fkn crimp nut under the dash.
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What a freaking mess! To me this is a good example of why we don’t allow DIY on the forum. Because by trying to “help” a hack you are actually hurting the end user. There are too many hacks out there!

BTW this may not have worked in your situation but a lot of times you can crimp it the opposite way and it’ll loosen up enough to slide it off. It doesn’t always work but a lot of times you can get it without having to cut the wires.

A lot of what determines whether or not you can remove it is if it was crimped proper to begin with. If it was crimped with on the insulated terminal jaws there’s a good chance it’s removable. If it was wrongly crimped on the non insulated terminal jaws it’s going to be so crushed removal would be difficult.
 
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R600a said:
I like them for anywhere that the wires will be bundled because it makes a neat tidy look but if the wires are running in a straight line I prefer to twist, solder, and heat shrink them.

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I basically use them on stranded wire where a wire nut will not hold as well as I would like it to. They’re also great for a motor or transformer lead you need to cap off. They hold better on wire insulation than a wire nut.
 
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JayMan7 said:
I basically use them on stranded wire where a wire nut will not hold as well as I would like it to. They’re also great for a motor or transformer lead you need to cap off. They hold better on wire insulation than a wire nut.
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Dead end single wire as in your example would be the only place I would want to see them.

For everything else, I prefer a standard wire nut.

For a control cabinet, terminal block.


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I only use them doing ballast replacements on those red yellow blue wires , and use the crimper with the nipple to crush it good
 
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heatingman said:
Dead end single wire as in your example would be the only place I would want to see them.

For everything else, I prefer a standard wire nut.

For a control cabinet, terminal block.


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I use them anywhere that shouldn't be coming apart for a good long while. I don't really like wire nuts that much.

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heatingman said:
Dead end single wire as in your example would be the only place I would want to see them.

For everything else, I prefer a standard wire nut.

For a control cabinet, terminal block.


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What is your objection to them? Is it just that they aren’t as easy to remove?
 
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R600a said:
I use them anywhere that shouldn't be coming apart for a good long while. I don't really like wire nuts that much.

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And places that a wire nut isn’t as trustworthy. Like the ungodly amount of wires stuffed into the small box below an oil control. They are small and stranded and I really feel a crimp nut is more reliable. Especially since everything gets shoved, crushed, and bumped every time you have to get in there and check the flame sensor for example.
 
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I wouldn't use wire nuts on anything that has vibration close to it. They can walk right off the wire.
I discovered this on my Harley. Surprise! Then I saw the same result on a bike site.
 
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hvacker said:
I wouldn't use wire nuts on anything that has vibration close to it. They can walk right off the wire.
I discovered this on my Harley. Surprise! Then I saw the same result on a bike site.
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Good point! I do know that most all mechanics consider wire nuts on a vehicle to be a hack repair. They only use crimp connectors or solder. I really think crimp nuts need to be more common in our industry. I’m not necessarily saying they should automatically be used more. I mean they need to be considered more often. Most hvac guys just automatically use wire nuts on literally everything and don’t even think about it.
 
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