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Also the sound was definitely not happening at the outdoor unit. However, when the 2nd tech checked it during the callback, he said the compressor wasn't maintaining pressure. He made a note on the invoice that the pressures were 135/215. Not sure how that fits into the puzzle.
 
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Just called the service company, and apparently my tech is the senior tech and the "owner isn't around and doesn't really get involved." Tech consulted with the Trane service rep for our area who told him to order the dc volt board. Tech said he's never seen this part go bad on a Trane Hyperion AH.

Thanks for the recommendations. I'm not sure how this will pan out, but at least I have a few things to ask when they come back out.
 
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I believe that's how he said it. The quote from the invoice is: "I checked the system & the pressures 135/215. Compressor is not pumping & oil on the discharge line at the reversing valve."
If the compressor was not pumping there would not be the pressure difference. Oil on or around the Rev valve would indicate a leak, not a bad compressor.
 
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This sounds more like the Original diagnosis and subsequent compressor replacement. How was the air filter? Did it ever run extensively with a dirty filter?

I believe that's how he said it. The quote from the invoice is: "I checked the system & the pressures 135/215. Compressor is not pumping & oil on the discharge line at the reversing valve."
 
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The system started blowing warm air about 10 minutes ago! Still set to auxiliary heat, so no movement at the outdoor unit. Nothing all weekend, and now warm air and the red lights have turned off on the AH. At this point, I'm at the mercy of my tech team, and this just makes me look like a moron when the guys come to take a look at it after I called to complain this morning.
 
The system started blowing warm air about 10 minutes ago! Still set to auxiliary heat, so no movement at the outdoor unit. Nothing all weekend, and now warm air and the red lights have turned off on the AH. At this point, I'm at the mercy of my tech team, and this just makes me look like a moron when the guys come to take a look at it after I called to complain this morning.
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there the morons for not fixing it in the 1st place.

From here I'd look for a different contractor!
 
And no noise?

The system started blowing warm air about 10 minutes ago! Still set to auxiliary heat, so no movement at the outdoor unit. Nothing all weekend, and now warm air and the red lights have turned off on the AH. At this point, I'm at the mercy of my tech team, and this just makes me look like a moron when the guys come to take a look at it after I called to complain this morning.
 
Refrigerant side.
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Compressor maybe killed itself due to a failure of a component, ran high pressure and then the noise was the bypassing of refrigerant(unless this is a scroll).
 
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Refrigerant side.
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Compressor maybe killed itself due to a failure of a component, ran high pressure and then the noise was the bypassing of refrigerant(unless this is a scroll).
That gets me closer to understanding how the problem could be in the compressor outside, but the noise coming from the air handler inside. Thanks. Any ideas about how the dc volt board is a factor or the failure of electric heat?
 
My 8 year old Trane air handler started making a rhythmic “screech” 3 weeks ago. It sounded like someone playing the recorder really badly. As best I could tell, the sound was coming from the upper right side of the cabinet. I shut off the switch immediately and called our HVAC maintenance company the next morning (this started around 9pm). They said the problem was a bad float switch, disconnected it, and said to have it replaced with our spring maintenance.
That night, the air handler started making the same noise, so I shut it off again and called the repair shop in the morning. This time they said it was a bad compressor in the outside unit. We switched to emergency heat and he ordered the part. The part was under warranty, but it cost $ in labor. The house was nice and toasty after the replacement but 6 nights later, the air handler started with the noise again. This time, the tech called Trane support who said it was a bad transformer which probably caused the compressor failure. We haven’t had any power surges that I’m aware of, and the circuit breaker was never tripped, which I’ve read is a common symptom. The tech switched to emergency heat again, ordered the part and noted on the invoice “bad dc volt board.”
Since this past Friday, the unit has stopped heating altogether. It was heating on emergency just fine and now nothing. There’s a little clicking sound coming from the AFC control board and all three LEDs are blinking on it and the EEV control board.
I’m just wondering if this all sounds kosher. I don’t think they’re intentionally taking me for a ride, but I can't keep shelling out thousands for them to rabbit hole the problem. Why would the loud noise be coming from inside if the problem was outside? If the original cause was the transformer/dc volt control, why would the noise disappear for a while if it hadn’t been replaced? Why did it heat before but not now?
Also, I took a look at the outdoor unit yesterday and saw that the wiring hadn’t been tucked back inside the cabinet after the compressor replacement and were completely exposed to the rain we’ve been getting. Not even electrical tape around the wire nuts to shield the connections from water.
Thanks so much for any advice you can give to help me talk more intelligently with my hvac techs.

Trane indoor unit model TAM7A0B30H21SBB
Trane outdoor unit model 4TWX6024G1000AA
Thermostat model TZONE950AC52ZA



What other equipment does this system have? The TAM7 is 24V the 4TWX6 is 24 V the Tzone950 is communicating. Do you have zoning or a relay panel?
 
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That gets me closer to understanding how the problem could be in the compressor outside, but the noise coming from the air handler inside.
Maybe the fan outside is intermittently stopping at times.
 
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What other equipment does this system have? The TAM7 is 24V the 4TWX6 is 24 V the Tzone950 is communicating. Do you have zoning or a relay panel?
There is a relay panel next to the AH. By zoning, do you mean more than one system for the house? If so, yes, we have a Lennox system for the second floor that is working great (thank God). If you mean zoning on the downstairs Trane system, I don't think so. It does condition our small basement, but not as a separate feature, just with vents we had added when this system was put installed.
 
A zone system is a single furnace that can provide heating and cooling separately to different areas ( zones ) of a structure being home or business.
 
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I was able to pull the control board out of the AH. An electric "cycling" buzz/click is coming from (I think) the part circled in red. If I were to take a guess, the board is trying to process an electrical signal but that part is failing? It doesn't make any noise when electric heat is working. Can anyone tell me what that part is? Is this what the tech is referring to when he says dc volt board?
 
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