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I don't have a lot of HVAC training but what I'm trying to do is turn in recovered freon from burnt out compressor, so I'm trying to consolidate everything i have into a larger tank. Basically i have a small bottle with freon in it, i want to move it to my larger bottle. So i hooked the vapor side small bottle to the blue side of my gauges, the yellow hose to the filter dryer side on the recovery machine the other side of the recovery machine hooked up to the vapor side of the large tank. The problem i was having was the smaller tank was creating frost on the bottom of the tank, so i was told to try putting the smaller tank in a 5 gal bucket of hot water and try that. It was working but the large tank was getting hot like really hot to the touch and recovery machine was also getting really hot. Is there something I'm missing or not doing correctly?
 
If you are not properly trained and licensed, then what you're doing is illegal and subject to a heavy fine.

As noted above, site rules prohibit giving DYI advice.
 
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Unless you are using a recovery tank that is rated for the pressure of the refrigerant being recovered, you are at great risk to yourself and others.

A few years ago in Philly, a refrigerant tank was accidentally pressurized by a trained technician in a restaurant, and he was killed on the spot. They never reopened that restaurant. Now, that area is a parking lot for a car dealership. That should tell you how bad it was.

That guy had a lot more experience than someone who "(doesn't) have a lot of HVAC training."
 
Refrigerant handling laws must be followed no matter if you are a DIYer or professional, or somewhere in between.
Certain tanks aren't rated for certain refrigerant. Ignoring this can create a situation as the above post describes.
 
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Does your recovery equipment have instructions?

Why consolidate it? Just turn in both tanks...
 
The nice thing to do is explain to the new member that he should get his post count above 15 and apply for professional membership. Then we can discuss the situation in the pros forum, not AOP which is for homeowners to discuss non technical stuff.
 
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Unless you are using a recovery tank that is rated for the pressure of the refrigerant being recovered, you are at great risk to yourself and others.

A few years ago in Philly, a refrigerant tank was accidentally pressurized by a trained technician in a restaurant, and he was killed on the spot. They never reopened that restaurant. Now, that area is a parking lot for a car dealership. That should tell you how bad it was.

That guy had a lot more experience than someone who "(doesn't) have a lot of HVAC training."
Both are recovery tanks, 30lb and 50lb tanks. I have a scale and i know about Tare weight and Gross weight and whats in the 30lb tank isn't close to being full. The 30lb tank has burnt freon in it, from two 2.5T condensing units, 50lb tank brand new, just ordered it.
 
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Does your recovery equipment have instructions?

Why consolidate it? Just turn in both tanks...
As far as instructions I'm sure it did when it was ordered. Ive used it for taking the freon out of two burnt out systems. I work at an apartment complex that works with HDSupply, for me to turn in this freon they state "Cylinder must meet minimum pickup weight of 50 lbs. Moving refrigerant from 30 lb to 50 lb cylinder is common to ensure proper cylinder weight." So i can't turn it in unless i get it moved to a larger cylinder.
 
Both are recovery tanks, 30lb and 50lb tanks. I have a scale and i know about Tare weight and Gross weight and whats in the 30lb tank isn't close to being full. The 30lb tank has burnt freon in it, from two 2.5T condensing units, 50lb tank brand new, just ordered it.
Seriously man, you should call a licensed HVAC tech. As others have stated, it's dangerous.
 
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The nice thing to do is explain to the new member that he should get his post count above 15 and apply for professional membership. Then we can discuss the situation in the pros forum, not AOP which is for homeowners to discuss non technical stuff.
Sorry for my posting here. Sounds like a plan, i wasn't sure how i could chime in to this forum to get my post count up unless posting something to get the ball rolling.
 
Okay I'm going to play Sergeant Joe Friday here, and we're going to take a look at the facts.

Fact 1: the poster posted in the home owners forum, apparently not reading the site rules.

Fact 2: posting in the homeowners forum, he said he did not have a lot of HVAC training.

Facr 3: this is not a DIY site.

Fact 4: if the poster is an HVAC technician then he should read the rules, make his future posts in the tech to Tech forum, and when he reaches 15 posts he can use the link in the bottom of my signature line, "how to become a professional member," and file the proper information with the membership committee, and then we can discuss this stuff with him in the pro's section.

Do I have that about right, sir?
 
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Your first post said you don't have a lot of HVAC training, how else were we supposed to react to your posts?
Well I don't think I do, I could always use more training, that goes with anything I think, you could always learn something new. The extent of my training or classes rather, is two 8 hour days hands on in a class room and on site, then we take the test to get certified. Once we pass the test anymore training is on site when something breaks down or isn't working. 90% of the time what goes wrong is mechanical or electrical, so not much dealing with freon itself, I've recharged units and replaced compressors, but besides that anything else is new. The reason I came here was for information because I have my Reginol supervisor telling me I should do what I'm trying to accomplish one way and the guy that trained us telling me another way. Both are knowledgeable to a certain extent but neither one do this for a living or on a daily basis, so I come here for help from some people who deal with this everyday.


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16 hrs of training and your a tech! Congrats.

As i said earlier grow a thick skin you are going to need it.

Your regional supervisor lets you repair equipment with out any training, classes, schooling?

Please be extremely careful around electrical, very unforgiving.

You said you've charged units, what method?

BTW "Freon" is a Dupont name, the proper term is refrigerant.
 
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I can see where i might have gotten confused. This is residential a thread, that states has own tools. I work in residential sector, apartment complexes, and I have my own tools. As far as DIY, i can see why you wouldn't post anything here for that considering this is really a home owner section.
 
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16 hrs of training and your a tech! Congrats. -Thank you

As i said earlier grow a thick skin you are going to need it. -I see your going to be my new friend.

Your regional supervisor lets you repair equipment with out any training, classes, schooling? -Yes and if we have any questions about anything he or the other guy will come out and show us. Also counts as on the job training. Learn as you go.

Please be extremely careful around electrical, very unforgiving. -Yes no fun.

You said you've charged units, what method? -i just know if my units are blowing hot, don't have the right split, and when hooking up my gauges the pressure isn't where its supposed to be, ill add some refrigerant.

BTW "Freon" is a Dupont name, the proper term is refrigerant. - learned something already.
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