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I got a quote for HVAC. They gave me a quote for single phase. Then I told him that i have 3 phase power. They wrote back and said this "upgrade the condenser and heat kit to 240volt 3 phase for $XXX".

I though when we bought a system , it would come in either single phase or 3 phase. No need extra upgrade. Is it right? Can some professionals help me understand this?

Thanks.
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Was the equipment that they are replacing 3 phase? If not, someone will have to get paid to change out the breaker and pull an extra wire for you.

Besides that, prices tend to follow the rules of supply and demand. If the factory makes more single phase units, those will often be the ones that are cheaper. I wouldn't expect both systems to cost exactly the same.
 
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Carrier/Bryant
Condenser model: 24abb360a005
Air handler model: fb4cnp060l00.
the air handler is single phase
the heat kit is 3 phase.
3 phase equipment and air handler has 1 year parts
The single phase equipment has 5 years parts

I dont know why some part is 1 phase. Some parts are 3 phase. Can somebody please explain?
 
Carrier/Bryant
Condenser model: 24abb360a005
Air handler model: fb4cnp060l00.
the air handler is single phase
the heat kit is 3 phase.
3 phase equipment and air handler has 1 year parts
The single phase equipment has 5 years parts

I dont know why some part is 1 phase. Some parts are 3 phase. Can somebody please explain?
the 5 on the outdoor is 3 phase , it is correct...and in commercial applications 1 year parts not 5 with the exception of the compressor
 
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Thanks the explanation. I am more confident now. I got bruised by the last contractor. So I got nervous when it comes to technical project that i have no clue about. Thanks for all the answers.
 
There is a little more to it than that. Three phase equipment, especially in residential-y sizes is more expensive - primarily because it is less common. Some of the components are also more costly but I think the price difference is largely due to the lack of economy-of-scale in production. It's just less common so the price has to be higher.

This is just a guess - but if forced to make one I would guesstimate that the total lifecycle cost of three phase equipment would be about 20% than the same thing in single phase.

BUT . . . . far more important to life-cycle costs are:

1. Absolutely Accurate equipment size - to precisely match the heat load and gain.

2. Impeccable Installation practices and execution.

3. Adequate and timely maintenance.

Any other factor is a far-distant fourth or lower.

PHM
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I got a quote for HVAC. They gave me a quote for single phase. Then I told him that i have 3 phase power. They wrote back and said this "upgrade the condenser and heat kit to 240volt 3 phase for $XXX".

I though when we bought a system , it would come in either single phase or 3 phase. No need extra upgrade. Is it right? Can some professionals help me understand this?

Thanks.
lvdummies.
 
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There is a little more to it than that. Three phase equipment, especially in residential-y sizes is more expensive - primarily because it is less common. Some of the components are also more costly but I think the price difference is largely due to the lack of economy-of-scale in production. It's just less common so the price has to be higher.

This is just a guess - but if forced to make one I would guesstimate that the total lifecycle cost of three phase equipment would be about 20% than the same thing in single phase.

BUT . . . . far more important to life-cycle costs are:

1. Absolutely Accurate equipment size - to precisely match the heat load and gain.

2. Impeccable Installation practices and execution.

3. Adequate and timely maintenance.

Any other factor is a far-distant fourth or lower.

PHM
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based upon his previous thread I believe this is commercial application
 
I did think of that - but the same points apply I think - in residential-y sizes anyway.

PHM
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based upon his previous thread I believe this is commercial application
 
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