I went through the Jade sales pitch/class today for how easy and efficient honeywells new design is to install and utilize. Its not extremely expensive so I'm interested since most economizers don't work correct as it is. Has anyone used this yet or installed? Im trying to get an opinion together and an idea on installation times. If you havent heard of it RSD has it on there website, or at least they said they did.
Honeywell "JADE" economizers whats your opinion?
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I went through the Jade sales pitch/class today for how easy and efficient honeywells new design is to install and utilize. Its not extremely expensive so I'm interested since most economizers don't work correct as it is. Has anyone used this yet or installed? Im trying to get an opinion together and an idea on installation times. If you havent heard of it RSD has it on there website, or at least they said they did.
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Cool, glad to hear that! Now I just have to get customers to say yes! Thanks.
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I've started a few carriers with the jade. Pretty basic. I'm sure it will fail like anything else sooner or later. It is electronic...
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Guaranteed 5 years if you buy the kit. It's supposed to be easy to dial in and work with ease. I can get the customer a big rebate with our SCE optimization program.
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Not only are they no longer supported, they are no longer manufactured. Many of these components are no longer available in the supply houses in then Chicago area. Only choice is JADE components/kits.
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And they are drastically increasing the price. It's cheaper to buy the kit rather then the actuator. Last one I bought was $650.
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While supplies last, purchased the last four W7210 and three W7459 our main HoneyWell distributor had. JADE is not bad and easy to program and install...but still much easier and CHEAPER to just swap a faulty module with an exact replacement, thus why I stocked up on what I could. Once they are gone, customer eating the cost of a JADE kit and actuator upgrade.
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Just bought one, looks pretty easy. Only problem is the suppliers in my area didn't even have a part # for a C7400S sensor let alone one in stock!
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Nifty LCD screen allows dialing in of values. Lots of peripherals available as well. Makes setting them up pretty easy. You can also use them to test the units heating and cooling functions.
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I wish they would write a simulator program like they did for the 7210. I believe the 7220 ( Jade ) has more DCV features ( modulating output , or I just never used it on the 7210 ). It's nice to have actual values to go with some of this rather than a potentiometer position as well.
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No wonder.
I have had so many failures of the logic modules and sensors in the past year, I have stopped even mentioning them.
They will have to re-establish a track record with me before I start doing anything with jade.
I don't care for the Honeywell Jade. I think the Belimo Economizer is better. I trust their product, and I hate figuring out the curve I'm on- easier to just put in a Zip Code
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calif new code will only allow jade and zip type economizer controllers. the controllers must be able to have a alarm fiction,some one told me that the 2014 code required a alarm light down in the conditioned space to let the user know when the economizer has failed.I been told that the new title 24 is crazy
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Yikes. Do old units have to be retried? Or is that new construction only.
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They work really well... Installed a couple on some York units. Was happy with the result
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