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I'm back as promised, after catching up I have a few comments:

1) Another poster said there is no excuse for the original tech to not return the phone call on a system he serviced just a couple of hours before, that is the biggest reason I agreed with the homeowner canceling the check, that way she only loses $30.00 on a job that is not complete.

2) If the system could possibly have taken a proper charge of 12 lbs then it would have been totally empty. To add 12 lbs of R22 without a leak check is just plain wrong and probably in violation of Section 608 of the clean air act, in fact after reading the code on the EPA website I'm sure that was a violation

3) Kathrine, you have a choice when selling your home, you can do the patch work and get the system running OK until you sell it, making it the buyers problem to fix without mentioning it. Or you can go ahead and do the patch work , disclose to any potential buyer that the system is only a few years from needing a replacement and work an "allowance" for the repair of the HVAC system into the sales contract. Yes it would come out of the profit that you would make on the house, but then you could sleep at night knowing you did the right thing, remember what I said about integrity earlier. Plus as the "patch it for now method" costs less you wouldn't have to worry about coming up with cash that you don't have for the total replacement.
 
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Rut-oh I'm gettin out of here somebody is talking about the EPA, man that scares me. Them guys monitor this site looking for violators. If that expansion tank has a hole in it or is leaking and that tech didn't check it.....whew doggies.

Bad boys, bad boys what cha gonna do when the EPA comes after you.
 
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Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
Bad boys, bad boys
Watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do
when EPA comes for you

When you were eight
And you had bad traits
You go to school and you learn the golden rule
So why are you acting like a bloody fool
If you get hot you must get cool

Bad boys, bad boys
Watcha gonna do whatcha gonna do
When they come for you (repeat)

You chuck it on this one
You chuck it on this one
You chuck it on mother and
You chuck it on you father
You chuck it on you brother and
You chuck it on you sister
You chuck it on that one and you chuck it on me

Nobody naw give you no break
Police naw give you no break
Soldier naw give you no break
Not even you idren naw give you no break

Why did you have to act so mean don't you know
You're a human being born of a mother with
The love of a father reflections come and reflections go
I know sometimes you want to let go
I know sometimes you want to let go
 
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Rut-oh I'm gettin out of here somebody is talking about the EPA, man that scares me..
You better get out of here that somebody is Huricane man he will
blow you away with BS. :eek:
 
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Does Johnstone sell EPA cards? Since Colemans got pre=charged line sets you don't need one. But I think I should get one, unless you got to take a test or somethin.
 
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I'm back as promised, after catching up I have a few comments:

1) Another poster said there is no excuse for the original tech to not return the phone call on a system he serviced just a couple of hours before, that is the biggest reason I agreed with the homeowner canceling the check, that way she only loses $30.00 on a job that is not complete.

This is crap no one knew she called him and he didn't return the call until this post

Oh - you mean the first AC guy who charged me for the 12 pounds of freon? I called him last Sunday night to tell him the AC unit basically quit a few hours after he left. I left a message with his answering service and he hasn't called me back yet, so I don't know what his explanation might be. If he calls me back (and I assume he will once the check doesn't clear), I'll find out and post his response here. If it's a plausible explanation and it appears that I was unreasonable, I'll issue him another check.

I'll let you know how it goes..
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2) If the system could possibly have taken a proper charge of 12 lbs then it would have been totally empty. To add 12 lbs of R22 without a leak check is just plain wrong and probably in violation of Section 608 of the clean air act, in fact after reading the code on the EPA website I'm sure that was a violation

3) Kathrine, you have a choice when selling your home, you can do the patch work and get the system running OK until you sell it, making it the buyers problem to fix without mentioning it. Or you can go ahead and do the patch work , disclose to any potential buyer that the system is only a few years from needing a replacement and work an "allowance" for the repair of the HVAC system into the sales contract. Yes it would come out of the profit that you would make on the house, but then you could sleep at night knowing you did the right thing, remember what I said about integrity earlier. Plus as the "patch it for now method" costs less you wouldn't have to worry about coming up with cash that you don't have for the total replacement.

Nice try you screwed up.................:p
 
My outside AC unit had been running normally, but there was no cold air coming into the house. It was about 88 inside...so I called a local company (they've been around for years) on Thursday, and the soonest they said they could send someone out was on Sunday July 7th (after normal hours, of course - $$).

When the tech showed up, he said he checked the blower (?) and it looked like it was all rusted and had a leak (it is under the house...for some very odd reason it was put in during the house construction in 1984 and the house was built over top of it(?)). The tech said the blower would have to be replaced, but that it would have to be put somewhere else, as there was no way to put one in the same place (under the house). He said he would call us later with an estimate, but for the time being he would add freon to give us some relief. He said he added 12 pounds of freon, which could last a month or a week - he had no way of knowing, but that we could see about getting repairs in the meantime.

He gave us a receipt for the service call, showing 12 pounds of freon, charged us $XXXXX, and left. Several hours later, the AC unit stopped working. It would kick on periodically, spin for 10 seconds, and then with a loud "thunk" shut completely down. This has gone on for almost 2 days, and we haven't heard back from the guy -- it's also almost 90 in the house now. Anyway, isn't 12 pounds of freon a ridicules amount? I've done a little internet research on freon/EPA and all that, and what he did doesn't seem at all right (could he really have added that much freon - I don't think the unit holds that much!). Furthmore, if he knew it would leak right out, why would you let 12 whopping pounds of freon just leak into the atmosphere like that?

Thanks in advance for any opinions/advice - Katherine
OK that is the First post, read the bold, she said she hadn't heard from the guy in "almost 2 days"

First post boys.

Did they teach you readin' in school?

As for you Mr. Bill, I'll have to take the advice of my grandfather"

"son never argue with an idiot, eventually they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with their superior skills"
 
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OK that is the First post, read the bold, she said she hadn't heard from the guy in "almost 2 days"

First post boys.

Did they teach you readin' in school?

As for you Mr. Bill, I'll have to take the advice of my grandfather"

"son never argue with an idiot, eventually they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with their superior skills"
Nah didn't spend much time learnin readin, specialized in a$$ whoopin:p
 
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This thread has gone the wrong way. HeyBob gave it a chance. It didn't work.

Thread closed.
 
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