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I was just watching on TV how dangerous it is for children having televisions fall on them

Now they are saying they should be bracketed to the wall to keep them from tipping WHEN CHILDREN ARE CLIMBING ON THEM


Now maybe its just me and I know I have real old fashion views for someone my age but when I see kids climbing on counters and furniture I cant help but to think the parents should be sterilized even if it against their will

I know when I was a kid if I would have climbed on our television my dad would have lit me up
And likewise the first time my kids tried to climb on our counters was the last and I made sure their butts were sore enough to remember for a long time


What is this country coming to? Pretty soon we will have to dress our kids in bullet proof vests for when they want to shoot at their friends with real guns :(
 
You're missing the point.

Life is dangerous and no one can survive it.

But when manufacturers inadvertantly help one to have an earlier demise, articles are written about dangers.

When I was real young there were no tv's to fall on kids.

And the radio was a table top type.

But as I got older and had younguns myself I found out that my house was full of defects and deadly items that a rug rat could get into. Articles helped to identify these dangers. Even good ole Abby brought up some of them.

Then we got entertainment systems loaded with speakers and such and tv's got bigger etc. Then some child had one fall on him and he died. Sad. Sad for the parents and siblings. So, inevitably an article or two went out over the wires warning as well as informing.

But, the ones that need this info can't or don't read and will not be informed. But....maybe one parent will take a second look around the house and decide that that bottle of lye or that combustible material or huge tv set in the corner should be attended to. Maybe...maybe not but it is worth a try.
 
Having lost a child (though not due to an accident) I can understand doing everything possible to keep my other kids safe. With that said, I have to agree with dhvac, parents do have to exercise some discipline. My kids know better than do something stupid enought to get seriously hurt. I expect my kids to use sound judgement without me having to pad the walls and everything in the house to prevent injury. When their judgement is lacking, I make certain that they have learned a lesson. I expect my kids to make mistakes, but not repeat them. I started early and now I can trust my kids in situations many parents might not. They make sound decisions and have earned a lot of trust. I rarely ever had to spank and haven't done so in years but they still remember and the paddle is still around in case they forget. I think it's gotten too easy to blame the product and not accept responsibility for one's own actions.
 
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Back in the day I was president of the local RSES. At the time there were still a lot of abandon latch type refrigerators in garages and basements etc. RSES had a big community awareness campaign to "TAKE OFF THE DOOR" of abandon refrigerators so that kids wouldn't get trapped inside. Probably you old timers remember this.

We had 3 little kids 15 months apart. One day the littlest one was chastised by his mother. A little while later he came up missing. She searched all over the place and couldn't find him. She went out on the patio and was calling his name. Finally in a faint voice she heard, "I'm in here." She opened the door on the beer keg cooler I had made. And there he was curled up on top of the beer keg. There couldn't have been more than 8" of room on top of the keg and the evaporator. This was a working refrigerator. I never gave it a thought that there would be room in there for a kid, even with my training.

He got mad at his mother and decided to hide in the refrigerator. Fortunately she found him in time.
 
The thing is, the TV's these days are huge, not like when we were kids, so I agree with the issue. Most people don't think about it. We watched our kids closely and I agree you need to do that, but at home when they are watching TV is a different story. I mean, how often do you get a break so you can cook, do laundry or other household chores by parking your kid in front of Sesame Street or something?
\So now you think you need to sit there and watch them watching TV??:D
Hook em to the wall, no big deal.
This was brought up years ago by the way.
 
One of my neighbors lost a young son to a falling TV.
It's not something you get over.

TVs are very front-heavy.

Strap it to the wall.



 
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I knew a kid who tried to get at his Dads change jar

on top of the dresser. Opened the drawers and started to climb. That fancy oak dresser killed him when it tipped over. Strap them too I guess, or just have a little house like me, with no room for stuff like that to fall clear over.

I am gonna check my TV.
 
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Sales rep for our Trane supplier was a beautiful young lady with a 2 year old. Apparently the child was with Grandma & Grandpa and somehow pulled the entertainment center over on himself doing permanent damage to himself, not sure if mentally, physically or both. She had to leave the biz to tend to him full time so I haven't seen her since.
 
Wild Leg said:
One of my neighbors lost a young son to a falling TV.
It's not something you get over.

TVs are very front-heavy.

Strap it to the wall.



My TV is very old (I bought it used 12 yrs ago, from a man who had bought it used 8-10 years prior to that) and I hadn't considered the newer larger screen and shallower tv sets are much more front heavy. Agreed then, strapping a modern TV would be worth the trouble. Having lost a child, I wouldn't want someone to loose one over somthing so simple.
 
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coordinatesales said:
I think it's gotten too easy to blame the product and not accept responsibility for one's own actions.
why accept responsibilty when you guys can sue so damn easy.

the release was probably made because a company is being sued for something that happened..

That said, if you have a little one you need to look at things differently.

I have a 15 month old and she is getting big enough to reach and climb now.

We are constantly teaching and she does very well with listening and understanding but she may climb on something new that can be dangerous.

If she pulls on shelves we tell her no and she doesnt do it again, she knows she cant climb on the coffee table, but we cant walk around telling her everything she cant do so we make it as safe as we can

dhvac
"Now maybe its just me and I know I have real old fashion views for someone my age but when I see kids climbing on counters and furniture I cant help but to think the parents should be sterilized even if it against their will

I know when I was a kid if I would have climbed on our television my dad would have lit me up"

We have friends that have a little boy 6weeks older than our little one and they allow him to climb and stand on the coffee table, it drives us nuts.

Keira gets trouble if she does something she shouldnt but what if we turn our heads. alot happens quickly with the little one as we see things differently
 
Watching your kids is one thing but at home you need some rooms where they can explore and play without having to be told no or don't touch that all the time. It's common knowledge to make some rooms in the house baby proof, that doesn't mean you don't watch your kids, not at all.
If my kids were little I would secure anything like that to the wall, rather than "light them up" after the fact.
 
A few months back I was at a friends house. I was in the kitchen and so was my second daughter age 4. I was heating up something in the microwave and my daughter said that she wanted chocolate milk. As she was saying this she started to climb up a hand made wooden shelf. I bolted across the kitchen and caught the shelf in time. All the can goods came flying off the shelf. How none of them hit her I don't know. She was petrified but fine. But I will say this she has never climbed anything since then. It is not just televisions but everything.
 
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There was danger when we were kids, there is danger now. When the danger is recognized deal with it, don't ignore it.

Bennie I remember a lot of kids dying in those old fashioned fridges. Hence the magnetic door seams.
 
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I am not saying it is not a tragedy and having had a fire where we almost lost our daughter (she was on life support for a month) I would not want to ever have to deal with something like that
Now with that being said where does it stop?
Do we lock every cabinet door with padlocks? Cause child safety locks don’t work well at keeping kids out
Do we build a shed out back out of concrete to put everything bad out of the way of our kids?
I have not used my paddle in a few years now and hope to never use it again (now they do pushups when they are bad  ) but it is still on the wall where they can see it
Now I am not saying you should beat the crap out of your kids but I do see many children now a days that I can not believe they are allowed out of their cages

And by no means do I ever think it is a kid’s fault they are an idiot, that rests solely on the parents
And maybe it’s just me and I didn’t pay attention but when I was a kid no one talked to their parents or acted out like some of the kids I see now a days

And for the people who have lost children my deepest sympathies are with you because I know when my baby was in that hospital bed I didn’t eat, I didn’t sleep, and I told the hospital if they wanted me out to call for a lot of security guards I could not imagine nor do I want to the pain that goes with the loss of a child
Now I am not worried about my TV’s because my youngest is 8 and would never climb on anything besides her stepstool (we bought her one cause she is so short and couldn’t reach anything lol )

It just really irritates me the way the kids are now a days and what it is going to be like when they all turn into adults that act like 6 yr olds
 
I had a climbing phase,too. It became subdued pretty quickly after (5 yr old) I was caught climbing a scaffolding to hang with the masons.

Was taught to clean up, etc., and NOT to do certain things. Guns, wood stove, power tools were not touched. My dad had some tools he didn't even allow his employees to use due to their hazardous nature.

Was also taught safe use of tools, guns, woodstove, etc.


Today I climbed a refrigerator to get at some duct. Maybe a relapse?
 
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dhvac said:
It just really irritates me the way the kids are now a days and what it is going to be like when they all turn into adults that act like 6 yr olds
I've been close to volunteering to give them a smack, parents first then the kid

parents want to be their kids friends now not parrents
 
Like I said, you need to watch your kids, especially 2-3 year olds. But......you need to have rooms in the house where they can play and explore without being told no and don't touch that all the time. Usually the TV or game room is one of those rooms. Making it as child proof as possible is common sense.
 
And one more thing, having raised 3 kids to adulthood, watching kidz all the time, nonstop is impossible, they can get into some crazy stuff in no time, as I'm sure many of your know. Ask your mom.:D
 
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